Indeed, though it is making it difficult to get an accurate picture of what's really going on.
Ah cool thanks! Thought it was a part of 4chan they were talking about but I usually only hear about /b doing stuff, so wasn't sure if it was another section or just people getting it wrong or something.

Most of what's going on right now can be summed up in two sentences:

"I IZ RIGHT, U IZ WRONG, STFU TROLL"

"I IZ RIGHT, U IZ WRONG, STFU BIODRONE"

Entertaining but useless as far as feedback goes.

Hmmm, I dunno, I get why some people are not digging the loss of some freedoms in DA2.

But, I am digging the game, the story is awesome, the voiced main character is awesome (very ME1and2).

The DX11 maxxed out visuals are astounding, really, REALLY nice.

I love the combat, and the new skill trees.

Im not too far into it yet, but im pretty impressed. (and im a very big fan of the "old school" Bioware games)

8/10 for me so far. (8ish hours in)

Indeed, that's the problem, can't tell what feedback is genuine, though you always did get the more 'extreme' reviews on BSN anyway. I think I'll be looking at the responses here on GOG for a more genuine viewpoint at any rate. :D

Yeah, i'm also alot more interested in the feedback from the community here than in most of the sillyness going on out there at the moment ;)

The other thing I have noticed, on a variety of places, including here:

DA2 = ME2 (like thats a BAD thing)

ME2 is one of the most critically acclaimed, best selling, hottest franchises on the games marketplace today.

I personally thought the game was fantastic, apparently, so did a whole heck of a lot of people. (GOTY in many peoples minds, sold like concentrated insanity, a critical darling)

Now, what people dont seem to understand, is while sure, there are the ME haters out there, the simple fact remains, great reviews, great sales = good game, period. This is what developers are going to look at, not forums, but cold hard sales numbers and reviewer scores, thats it.

So, is ANYONE actually suprised that DA2 was made with ME2 streamlining? Is anyone actually suprised that DA2 is getting great/good critic reviews? Will anyone be suprised when DA2 sells like wildfire?

If you are, your not paying attention.

I am aware of the forum hate ME2 and DA2 gets, yet, the games sell fantastic, get great reviews, etc, etc, etc. The ONLY conclusion that the developers can make with this info is THAT IS WHAT THE MARKET WANTS. If the developers (in this case Bioware) were to listen to the forums on these kinds of things the games would sell like concentrated shit, hence why they dont listen to these sources.

1+1 = 2

I'm sorry, were you saying you were interested in paying an extra 60 bucks to buy a texture pack for ME2?

DA2, in short, is DA:O with a LOT of corners cut, lazy design, repetitive and soulless areas, dull characters, combat that is now more simplistic, etc. If DA:O was an expensive brand, DA2 would be the equivalent of the cheapest alternative brand you could get, in white anonymous packaging.

That's a bit harsh. But, eh, opinions differ. Have you played DA2?
I do agree about some of the areas being rather repetitive though, it annoyed me a bit last night while I was playing that two different caves were fairly identical.

I have to disagree on the characters in my personal opinion. So far I have 4 companions and I like all of them so far. The banter is still amusing like in DAO. I definitely don't consider the characters dull at all and I don't even have a full team yet.

Yes I did, sadly enough. The character dialog was a joke, the world feels completely wrong, almost the entire game is spent in a single darn city that looks badly designed, and all of my party members bar one or two are dull as hell. It may be harsh but it's the truth - it's like they didn't even try to make this game believable - when you got treasure chests in the middle of a big plaza, when you have a "packed city with too many refugees" and then end up in deserted streets that look like everyone had ESCAPED the city ... let's say it harms believability somewhat. It's clear they rushed this game - the programmers and the dialog writers obviously barely worked together. How about being able to rob someone blind when they're standing 3 feet away - click on them and you get "this office is off limits!". Yes, yet I can still rob you blind without anything happening! There's too many small things like that, that totally kill the immersion for me.

What about the 3 to 4 same maps used in every mission...

I think it's a huge simplification, among those who are disappointed or don't like DA2 there seems to be a good number of them who actually liked ME2, if you looks at the sites that gave bad reviews to DA2 most of them gave good reviews to DA2 (for example the French site that gave DA2 a 12/20 actually gave 18/20 to ME2)

Personally I loved ME2 but after DA2 demo and everything I heard about it, I am less and less motivated to play it.

If some peoples are angry its more because Bioware took the risk of making a more "hardcore" PC oriented RPG... it sold well surprisingly... but even then what was Bioware reaction ? dump the idea and "streamline" it for the sequel. I am pretty sure that if DAO had been a ME1 or Jade Empire clone to begin with nobody would have minded.

No it's more than that. It's that the sequel was built for the consoles and then the PC version is just essentially a port. A lot of the things that were cut like the overhead camera and free targetting could easily have been implemented but weren't because from the look of it the PC version was an afterthought. Bioware said that all three version were developed equally this time but that was clearly a lie. They chased the console dollar and in doing so have ignored the fans of the most popular version of the original.

Nope, but im ok with DA2.

The combat is slick, the story is classic Bioware (still great), anyone saying the visuals have cut corners has not turned on DX11 and all the options. (seriously, game looks FANTASTIC maxxed out)

I am honestly saying I really like the game, and I totally get why some people want the more hardcore DAO approach, but the market place (yup, looking at the consoles) wants a more streamlined game.

Its what it is, people want these high budget, epic, voiced over games, and they want them FAST, but then they cry over how the companies have to consider mass sales on all platforms.

Hypocrisy, in its finest form. They do have to pay for the making of these games you know? And yes, I get the DLC gouging, I know, but obviously (looking at the DLC sales for Bioware) the marketplace SUPPORTS this.

Are you saying you want a PC exclusive title made for only the hardcore niche market with all the trappings and bells and whistles of a AAA title?

Think about that for a second.