Neobr10: The trade-off of being able to upgrade a PC is that it will eventually lose compability with old games due to technical differences.

Neobr10: But how? Early PS3 models had full backwards compability with both PS1 and PS2 games, there's no way of going farther than that, since the PS1 was the fist console by Sony. All PS1, PS2 and PS3 games are guaranteed to work out of the box on any of these PS3 models. On PC compability with older games goes on a case-by-case basis.
Neobr10: But there are emulators for consoles too, and they're not even new. Heck, there were plenty of pirated CDs filled with NES and Master System games for PS1. The first Xbox became famous because of the many emulators and homebrew apps it could run. Heck, even the PSP has plenty of great emulators (it's a portable you can take it everywhere, which makes it even better than PC), not to mention that it runs PS1 games officialy through Sony's own emulator. Even my GC could play emulated N64 games. It's just useless to bring up the emulation argument.

If i had to choose the best device for emulators, i would certainly go with the PSP due to it's portable nature.

Even my Xperia Play phone has plenty of emulators for it (and it supports PS1 games natively).

StingingVelvet: Honestly the number of even marginally popular/important games not playable on Windows 7 is amazingly low, at least in my experience.

orcishgamer: No, they're cheap as hell now and the libraries are huge. Even the best titles are for sale used and dirt cheap, used controllers and third party doo-dads abound, there is no better time to take advantage of current gen than right now.

If you're in the US your gold sub will make your XBox 360 behave pretty much like a Roku box, PS3 will do many of the same things.

The best console at the launch of this gen was easily the PS2 for the same reasons (vast library of cheap titles, cheap hardware, ubiquitous peripherals, etc.).
orcishgamer: It doesn't even have to be a choice/preference, both platforms can be had for so cheap, consoles especially so just now, with more titles than anyone but a kid on permanent summer vacation could ever get through.

You might as well have both, there's literally no reason not to at this point.

jefequeso: That's certainly the most elegant way of doing things, unless you're short on cash or just don't really care about the other platforms. I've got a 360 and a Wii in the house, but I don't really touch them anymore (unless my fiancee and I are playing splitscreen Halo or something). Aside from a few exclusives that I'm jealous of (most of which are sadly on the Ps3 :P), I've got basically everything I want on PC. I recognize that consoles have a lot of advantages, but there aren't really any that I personally value, whereas most of the advantages I see on the PC are things that matter a lot to me.

jefequeso: Well, if that's true, it would certainly make it less of a PC advantage. I haven't ever had the desire to try emulating anything on console, since I wasn't aware that it was practical to do so. I guess this brings up another question... how thriving is the console modding scene?

As far as the Ps3 goes... I was under the impression that the Ps3 was actually fairly inconsistent when it came to backward compatibility. Some Ps2 games would work, some wouldn't. But I don't have any firsthand experience in that area.

Fictionvision: Console modding isn't as strong as it once was, but is still possible. The most popular is the 360 as there is a hardware hack that can be done to run unsigned code. The PS3 is blown wide open, but to do so you have to have a PS3 that has firmware 3.55 or lower. If your console once had that version, you can get a hardware flasher to go back to it. Newer PS3s are out of luck. Wii is about as easy to softmod as the Xbox 1 was.

The peak of the console modding scene was with the Xbox 1 imo. The number of homebrew programs, ease of modding, and ability to install a larger internal hard drive made it a great machine. Most of the emulators haven't been updated in years, but what is there is bigger than any other console, even the 360/PS3.

For the PS3, there are 3 levels of backwards compatibility I think. The original that had the full PS2 hardware in it, which are also the systems most prone to YLOD. The next one with only the PS2 GPU in it that has less compatibility as the PS2 CPU is emulated. Then no PS2 hardware.

Neobr10: It is indeed fair. Just think about it. PCs are upgradeable, which means users are constantly changing it to meet the ever evolving system requirements. No one keeps old PCs around (or at least the majority doesn't). The same can't be said about consoles. They are not upgradeable, if you sell your old console and buy a new one you know that you will lose all the games that you have for it, unless it's backwards compatible.

The trade-off of being able to upgrade a PC is that it will eventually lose compability with old games due to technical differences.

Neobr10: But the N64 and the Wii are completely different systems, with different architectures and everything. They are NOT meant to be compatible. A Pentium with Windows 98 installed and a Core i7 with Windows 7 are both PCs, the Windows 7 is meant to be compatible with software written for older versions, at least in theory.

jefequeso: Well, if that's true, it would certainly make it less of a PC advantage.

jefequeso: I haven't ever had the desire to try emulating anything on console, since I wasn't aware that it was practical to do so. I guess this brings up another question... how thriving is the console modding scene?

jefequeso: As far as the Ps3 goes... I was under the impression that the Ps3 was actually fairly inconsistent when it came to backward compatibility. Some Ps2 games would work, some wouldn't. But I don't have any firsthand experience in that area.

scampywiak: PC gaming is better in every way. Case closed.

StingingVelvet: This kind of statement always annoys me. I am not hunched over anything, I am relaxed and reclined in a very comfortable chair. Also my monitor is more "HD" than any 1080p television and larger too, due to my close proximity to it. And I don't have to fight the wife, kids or company for the living room.

F1ach: Well, I was talking about me, but I'm glad you are comfortable with your set up :)

StingingVelvet: Yes but it's how you present it, how so many others present it. You make it sound like playing a desk is the most horrible thing in the world.