Posted December 06, 2013

Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden

koima57
Old User
Registered: Sep 2011
From France
Posted December 06, 2013
Oh but these are sold one time as physical copies, for collection purpose.
Served as digital downloads for 3€ more profits, with not even 1 MO of ROM server space used, is very, very uncool to say the least, but that was to expect from a business shark like Nintendo, I guess..
Served as digital downloads for 3€ more profits, with not even 1 MO of ROM server space used, is very, very uncool to say the least, but that was to expect from a business shark like Nintendo, I guess..

andysheets1975
RIP Roy 01/07/2023
Registered: Jan 2011
From United States
Posted December 06, 2013

Expecting those on GOG for 5.99$ which would equal ripping off too, is the same kind of bad joke, IMHO.
Truth is, some things are better left where they are, in the past.. This is archeo-gaming and not welcome at GOG, thank you very much.
http://www.gog.com/game/ultima_1_2_3
http://www.gog.com/game/kings_quest_1_2_3
http://www.gog.com/game/space_quest_1_2_3
Commodore 64 games were often better-looking and definitely better-sounding than these (well, text is text in the case of Zork), and perhaps GOG could sell less marketable games in small bundles like these, too.

koima57
Old User
Registered: Sep 2011
From France

Phc7006
Good News again?
Registered: Dec 2010
From Belgium
Posted December 06, 2013
I understand your point of view. Still, not everyone feels like you. There is already some archeo-gaming on GOG ( the early ultima and world of ultima games, zork,...) and there could be a market for more, provided the price is correct. Ultimately, everyone will have his/her views on what is "welcome" on GOG. As far as I am concerned, I'd be much more tempted to buy the archaïc amiga versions of Star Command or Carrier Command ( that were graphically superior to their DOS counterparts ) than yet another paltformer

VABlitz
Desert Ranger
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted December 06, 2013
Jumpman despite it's aged graphics would still be fun to play. I agree that perhaps $6 for a C64 game is not something most people would pay for it, bu if they were bundled I am sure some here would purchase them.

koima57
Old User
Registered: Sep 2011
From France
Posted December 06, 2013

Truth is, some things are better left where they are, in the past.. This is archeo-gaming and not welcome at GOG, thank you very much.

I should have expressed myself clearer on my first post, not my last.
I could see a C64 collection selling actually, with a good dozen of classics.. Boulder Dash, Defender of the Crown..Rick Dangerous..
But definitely not sold one at a time. Then again one could say, not my money anyway, why should I care? Because I know the value of money and feel sorry for it being wasted, a C64 game of 30 years old with not even 1 MO of data should not be offered for more than 1$ to this day. Thanks, I stand my ground, in a more polite manner. :)
Post edited December 06, 2013 by koima57

Tarm
MK III
Registered: Sep 2008
From Sweden
Posted December 06, 2013

So, yeah, that's where my nostalgia really lies, and indeed some commodore games were not identical to their PC versions. Yeah, I know, there are "other ways" but if we cared about that we wouldn't be at Gog. It'd be nice to play legal copies of many of them again, in the exact form (sound, graphics, etc) that I remember. Admittedly, they often lacked mouse support and some games had control schemes as a result that were... bad? But I still miss the days.
Anyone else willing to pay for Commodore nostalgia? ;)
Yeah there is also where my biggest gaming nostalgia is.

Danest
New User
Registered: Dec 2009
From United States
Posted December 06, 2013

So, yeah, that's where my nostalgia really lies, and indeed some commodore games were not identical to their PC versions. Yeah, I know, there are "other ways" but if we cared about that we wouldn't be at Gog. It'd be nice to play legal copies of many of them again, in the exact form (sound, graphics, etc) that I remember. Admittedly, they often lacked mouse support and some games had control schemes as a result that were... bad? But I still miss the days.
Anyone else willing to pay for Commodore nostalgia? ;)

Yeah there is also where my biggest gaming nostalgia is.

viperfdl
New User
Registered: Nov 2008
From Other
Posted December 07, 2013
Only if GOG.com also offers Competition Pro Sticks because playing Amiga Actiongames with a gamepad would be heresy!

Tarm
MK III
Registered: Sep 2008
From Sweden
Posted December 07, 2013


PixelBoy
New Loser
Registered: Jun 2009
From Finland
Posted December 07, 2013

You can have gigabyteload of shit released just last week that offers absolutely no such rewarding experience as older games.
In fact, older game design is probably better just because of these limitations. As there was no 3D, no embedded video, no voice-overs, no cinematic score, no particle effects, no lense flare, and no nothing in comparison to games of today, immersion and playability were the main focus of the game. There are many game series that have gone from the top straight to hell when they have been trying to stay with the cutting-edge technology, forgetting what the gaming experience really is all about.
As for me, the value of experience not relates to age or technology used. I can pay for albums recorded in the 70s with analogue technology, I can pay for black-and-white movies and I can also pay for 8-bit games, if they offer me the kind experience that I'm looking for.

koima57
Old User
Registered: Sep 2011
From France
Posted December 07, 2013


You can have gigabyteload of shit released just last week that offers absolutely no such rewarding experience as older games.
In fact, older game design is probably better just because of these limitations. As there was no 3D, no embedded video, no voice-overs, no cinematic score, no particle effects, no lense flare, and no nothing in comparison to games of today, immersion and playability were the main focus of the game. There are many game series that have gone from the top straight to hell when they have been trying to stay with the cutting-edge technology, forgetting what the gaming experience really is all about.
As for me, the value of experience not relates to age or technology used. I can pay for albums recorded in the 70s with analogue technology, I can pay for black-and-white movies and I can also pay for 8-bit games, if they offer me the kind experience that I'm looking for.
The amount of data was limited before, but today it is an indicator of the ratio quality / content there is, even if it sound unfair, it is a fact.
I can think of a child playing C64 goodies as first gaming experience and enjoying them thoroughly, but I can't think of this same child knowing modern gaming and still enjoying C64 games.
Because what is known is setting a new reference in our memories, it's like you drink everyday good fruit juices and then, plain water... Yes, water is more healthy, no additive, etc.. But you will miss the orange juice and hardly remove it from your memory as you drink your water, unless having nothing else and it saving your life, but that's irrelevent for old games,.. But well, you get the idea!
Even approaching C64 offerings with an adult, fresh, open mind I don't think there is THAT many cult classic and genuine fun to dig there, but that's just me, time is too short for this kind of backward experience unless very curious or just nostalgic.
Post edited December 07, 2013 by koima57

PixelBoy
New Loser
Registered: Jun 2009
From Finland
Posted December 07, 2013

They are an interesting topic for conversation, but in the end of the day, they are only some people's perceptions of things. Just like you can have great movies which never get nominated for awards and crappy movies receiving loads of awards.
But if you want an example, think about California Games. Has there been a sports game before or since, which would have such a fresh take on the entire concept of sports? That game would still be as addicitive as it ever was, as it never relied on graphics or gimmicks, instead, it relied on a fresh way of thinking and immersive playability.
And so on.

I don't think I have heard anyone saying that games like Machinarium or Time, Gentlemen, Please! are worse games than, let's say, Jack Keane 2 (a GOG cult classic), even though you could fit both games like 20 times to the storage space that Jack Keane 2 requires.


And then again, you can have a glass of cold, clean water. Which do you prefer?
Not to mention that juice is a rather bad drink to extinguish thirst. Have you ever run a marathon? You never drink juices during marathons. The most important liquid will be water, with special sports drinks every now and then. But never, ever, juice, no matter how much you appreciate its taste.

I prefer older stuff mostly when it comes to entertainment. I have no problem watching movies which were made before I was even born. A while ago I read through Arthur Conan Doyle's Holmes stories and they kept me totally entertained. And that stuff is like from 18xx something.
Although, on occasion, I do play latest games.
I installed and started playing both Botanicula and Broken Sword 5 just few hours from their release. But I don't think these are better games than older games, just because they are new.

tomimt
Optimum rat
Registered: May 2010
From Finland
Posted December 07, 2013

http://www.gog.com/game/ultima_1_2_3
http://www.gog.com/game/kings_quest_1_2_3
http://www.gog.com/game/space_quest_1_2_3
Commodore 64 games were often better-looking and definitely better-sounding than these (well, text is text in the case of Zork), and perhaps GOG could sell less marketable games in small bundles like these, too.
