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Adzeth: About this DRM-ish thing, didn't they sort of have that in Resident Evil 5 already? I mean, you could probably hunt down the files and eradicate them, or install it on some other computer, but I couldn't get rid of my mega buster guns in the inventory and moneys ingame (without messing around with selling buying selling until everything's gone) and hence didn't ever play it through again.

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svmariscal: That's nothing, I am currently designing a DRM system which kicks you in the balls when trying to install the game, and it calls you sissy while you're lying on the floor all whiny. And this is with the original, you don't want to know what happens with a pirated copy.
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Adzeth: It doesn't do any of that and works properly?
Hey! it's supposed to be confidential!
Post edited June 28, 2011 by svmariscal
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jungletoad: Capcom has spawned a new form of DRM that only allows you to have one save game ever. You can never start your game from the beginning again or have multiple save files. This is to discourage used games sales because the game is only useable with its original save.
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svmariscal: That's nothing, I am currently designing a DRM system which kicks you in the balls when trying to install the game, and it calls you sissy while you're lying on the floor all whiny. And this is with the original, you don't want to know what happens with a pirated copy.
I know what would happen with the pirated copy: It will work just fine and the ball kicking code will be removed and legitimate customers laughed at, just like all all pirated games. DRM only hurts legitimate customers.
DRM doesn't make sense.

I like to imagine DRM in other products. For a STEAM-like application, imagine if all of your utilities required a constant connection to the website.

Crap, my internet is out so my fridge just died.
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Tulivu: DRM doesn't make sense.

I like to imagine DRM in other products. For a STEAM-like application, imagine if all of your utilities required a constant connection to the website.

Crap, my internet is out so my fridge just died.
I believe the steam way is "Crap my internet is out, I can only open my fridge twice until the net comes back...BEer or food....Gaaah the decisions >_<"
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svmariscal: That's nothing, I am currently designing a DRM system which kicks you in the balls when trying to install the game, and it calls you sissy while you're lying on the floor all whiny.
Oh, you mean you're going to go easier on the buyer than some of the latest DRM solutions? :p
Capcom has spawned a new form of DRM that only allows you to have one save game ever.
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We are many (says geth)
Nevetheles konami did something right when if someone rememberes..
Castlevania:symphony of the night.
That was awesome.
I bought games (when I played with consoles) and I buy those now.. Only because things with this community. And those fallouts were cheap.
Post edited June 29, 2011 by Antimateria
i guess pirates dont have a problem with that kind of drm, only used buyers right?
so capcom basically says if you pirate games its ok, but if you buy used games you are a pi*ce of sh*t
Terrible as this is, it's worth pointing out that the 'save' in question is just a record of what you've unlocked. Mercenaries doesn't have a story, it's just an expanded version of a minigame.

If this was a proper Resi game, and you could never restart the game, that would be the worst idea ever. As it is, it just means if you buy the game used, you don't get to earn all the hidden stuff yourself- annoying, but at least you don't actually lose content.

I doubt even Capcom will try pulling this **** on a game with real progression.
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BlackMageJ: I doubt even Capcom will try pulling this **** on a game with real progression.
why not? publishers already did all the wrong things, people buy games that are completely unfinished, unplayable because of drm, leave out a lot of essential content on purpose, and whatever idea you have to treat the customer bad as hell, it was already done

so everybody who buys Mercenaries is responsible for more crap that customers have to deal with
I think this was brought up before. Second hand sales are killing the big guys here. There are trying to think up ways to stop or curb the trend. What they should be doing is tapping this market by being an official outlet of handling second hand sales or sponsor the shops thus taking their fair share or funds when a game gets sold. Hell just allow us the buyers to either buy the game when it's new or used. At least there are people buying the game. For those who do not wish to own but just play. Have a rent option like a normal video store does. The only difference is that the proper companies and Devs are still getting something for their work. May not be as much as if it were new but something is better than nothing, eh?

These nut jobs and bean counters should be taken to the back of an alley, be shown what type of gun will be used on them if they don't stop this madness.
This has got to be something thought up by business execs or marketing people instead of gamers. This will be epic fail in the making and it will be Lol.
So this is DRM to curb used game sales and not pirating?

For the life of me, I couldn't figure out how this effected pirating in the least.
Dunno where people are getting the idea that this is about killing second hand game sales, Capcom themselves say its not and why would they lie?

Bwahaha sorry, couldn't keep a straight face there
I don't know if this really merits the crown as worst DRM as it really only aims to spoil some of the fun of a second hand buyer( or 1st owner that likes restarting). Its obnoxious and petty but are worse things out there.

I don't however buy the "second hand sales were not a factor," nonsense. VG companies would love to finally curb such sales IF they could find a legal way of denying people's right to resale.
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gooberking: VG companies would love to finally curb such sales IF they could find a legal way of denying people's right to resale.
They may well get their wish next generation if Microsoft and/or Sony make Steam-style activation standard, with the disc only offering lesser functionality without the single-use code. EA Sports games already do this for multiplayer functionality.