I bought (and will be buying) every EA game on GOG on release day. Sign me up.

Not really. Most of those here would have bought the games anyway (whatever they might say). Also, I'd wager that most of those who agree with my view on this issue don't post because the so-called "classy" GOG community is aggressively down-repping for a difference of opinion (rather than any kind of forum abuse). Sad, especially taken with the prevalence of flamey comments in place of engaging with the legitmate points that I make in that thread.

But I'm not too concerned: Being beaten down by the GOG mob is worth GOG knowing how strongly how I feel about the issue. And your immature responses bring attention to the original post, making it more likely that GOG will notice that at least some of its customers are *very* unhappy with the unexplained lack of expansions.

Not really all that stupid. If you don't let GOG know what they are doing wrong then they will not improve.

In any case, I'm not really in support of a comple boycott of all EA games, just the ones that do not include their expansions.

I think the real blunder thatd GOG made was in customer relations: they made such a big deal about how historic this addition of EA games to the GOG lineup that they failed to make clear ahead of time that none of these games would include thier expansions. How could they fail to understand that a fair number of their customers would be more than a little upset at only being offered the original games? I'm still scratching my head in puzzlement over that blunder.

Not really, I doubt very much that more than a couple people are boycotting because of the lack of expansions. I'm sure that there are some who already own the main game and are waiting for the expansion because they don't want to repurchase.

So, yes the number of games sold is probably higher than it would other wise have been without the boycott thread.

As for the downrepping and such, the fact that the boycotting is such an inherently dumb idea makes people suspect that it's more about trolling and attention whoring than anything serious. People are quick to downrep those sorts of threads just because it gets old having those sorts of threads clogging up the forum.

Getting EA was significant, but the boycott thread just reminds me of the waaambulance because Mr. Gog was only able to get the hardest publisher, and not absolutely everything else.
That could have been PMed or emailed to Gog without making a forum topic about it. Mr. Gog was already aware that people were going to want the expansions, it's not like there's some mind blowing insight that there's people out there that want the expansions. They were already working on it even before the announcement for heaven's sake.

Well since i intented to irritate a few people i guess this was my first troll topic on GOG... Considering it seems to have failed to serve its origional purpose and evolved it was a shit troll attempt...

Well, there's not much point in arguing with you over something that comes down to speculation; it's not as if either one of us can say with any certainty.

Do I have a history of trolling? I don't always sugarcoat, and I'm not afraid to take a less popular position, but saying that I'm a troll is a pretty weak defense of a very petty behavior.

You're right; I'm *must* be crazy for wanting to use the forum to express a strong opinion on a GOG gaming issue.

EDIT: Feel free to respond, but I'm strongly considering not engaging you further and letting this thread drift back to humor. At least the randomness was entertaining.

..I get it... :)

Don't be childish. Basically every game on here can be easily found for people looking to pirate it, meaning that "self entitled folks who expect everything for free" are NOT generally hanging out here. For Alpha Centauri, a fairly recent reprint means that even legal copies have become widely available.

The base game alone is being sold at an incredible bargain price for someone who doesn't care about the expansion. I don't deny that for a second. It's not such a good deal if you want a complete archival copy to backup an edition you already own, or if you are willing to put up with some DRM to buy a complete edition elsewhere. In either case, buying the base game alone is completely redundant.

Obviously that changes if GOG is able to add expansions. They have said that they want to, and that they are working on it. I believe them, but they have said NOTHING else on the subject. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they are able to work something out. I also wouldn't be surprised if they can't, as it may be COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR HANDS. At this point we just don't know. People treating it as an article of faith that GOG will fix everything would do well to remember that. Again, I'm hopeful they will be able to add more content, but they have made no promises to that effect.

Bottom line: Someone who, for whatever reason, doesn't want to buy a game without its expansion is making an informed purchasing choice. That doesn't make them ungrateful. It is getting a little tiresome to hear lectures on our obligation to GOG. Obviously the EA hysteria is over the top, but calling people names if they express any dissatisfaction with the current releases is just as bad. GOG is a business, not a cult.


edit: removed the post I wasn't responding to from the quoted section.

No, you're not crazy, you're trolling. You posted an inflammatory thread which was basically just a kiss off to EA, the publisher that some of us have been waiting years to see come here and somehow managed to not understand what the problem with that is.

It doesn't matter whether you have a history of it or not, you've been called out by the people down repping your posts. Either stop trolling or accept that people feel rather strongly about such trollish posts.

I'm not personally sure I understand what you thought would happen by posting a thread like that during the middle of everybody's joy at having such a significant publisher confirmed.

I'm a troll because I disagree, then? So, stop dissenting or get down-repped, huh?

Here's two quotes from me since you obviously haven't bothered to read much of what I posted: Now, maybe you disagree with my take on the above. That doesn't make me a troll.

If you want to engage the above, perhaps show me how I'm mistaken, go for it. If I have time, I'll discuss it with you. Otherwise, keep calling me a troll and I'll just ignore you.

Or we could just go back to the random humor. That works for me, too. Been a busy day and I'm a bit tired. I could use a few laughs.

Frankly, I get the view of either side. If some don't want to buy a game because they feel it's not good enough an offer it's their choice. I bought SMAC since I have good memories of the game, I lost my disc at some point, and I never experienced the expansion so it doesn't matter too much to me either way - and at six bucks it's still an incredible deal. Some people seem to think there needs to be all this speculation of why... when reps of GoG have already stated it's due to legal issues. End of story.

That said, boycotting an entire publisher because of such an issue is just silly. Well, have fun missing out on great games while I'm having a blast over here. ;)

Also, because of these threads I find this picture is most appropriate:

I strongly disagree. This picture either assumes that arguing "on the Internet" is any different than anywhere else or that arguing in general is pointless. If you think of "arguing" in the negative sense, the latter might be true but the picture gives unnecessary information.
If we assume the former, we're suddenly weighing arguments based on the medium they come from, not their own merit, which I find inappropriate. Also - it's a simple cop out: "Oh, it's the Internet, let's take nothing seriously, not bother to state any opinions, discuss anything or even pretend it's worth more than the sum of its porn and kitten videos".

No. Just no. This place is the fulfillment of a dream that dates back at least to the Middle Ages, if not the ancient times.

Have they? I saw that TheEnigmaticT confirmed that GOG is aware that we want the expansions and "doing what we can". Also, I find it difficult to believe that tangled rights are preventing the release of SMAX: Same dev, same publisher, multiple past releases. Plus three EA games lacking expansions in a row.

Could be that I jumped the gun with the boycott, or that another method would be more effective. But could also be that there's a big problem behind the scenes here that a lot of people don't want to admit. EA (or any other publisher) is not worth it if GOG has to lower its standards in exchange.

I wouldn't mind being wrong. If this all turned out to be some coincidence or bizarre legal snafu that gets resolved, then problem solved. Happy all around.

Anyway, tis good that you're enjoying SMAC again. I've prob played more SMAC/SMAX than I have any other game. ;-)

Let me ask you this: can you imagine ANY OTHER possible reasons ?
I'm pretty sure if they could, they would. And when they can, they will.

You absolutely did jump the gun. Did you send a letter to EA support yet? Did you get a response? Having EA's official statement would do wonders to substantiate your boycott. As it is, you sound like a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. I boycott things for good reasons and your stupid boycott is lowering the credibility of worthy boycotts.