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Leroux: And can you remove all tiles from the start menu to make it look more like the old one?
You can remove all tiles, though the right side remains there, though empty. I'd suggest keeping a tile or two just for quick view (Neather? RSS? News?).
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blotunga: Holy crap. What if I'm traveling and I don't want to use up my 3G stick's download quota?
"I'm on a metered connection" setting is available. It won't download updates.
Post edited July 29, 2015 by JMich
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JMich: No idea. My Win7 key is a SLIC one, so it remains a Win7 SLIC key even with Win10 running.
I have a retail Windows 7 Ultimate... And the automatic updates "feature" kind of makes me question whether I want to upgrade or not.
For those worried/annoyed by the forced updates thing, MS provided a tool in the beta stage to get around that, and ZDnet have and article on that and where to get that tool:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-releases-tool-to-hide-or-block-unwanted-windows-10-updates/
I'm in no hurry to try it out. Win7 is doing everything I need at this time, and waiting will let all of you other beta testers find the problems before I get around to upgrading ; )
Are there any GOG games yet that weren't compatible with Win 8.1 but will be compatible with Win 10?
I figure that I will wait until Service Pack 1 before deciding if Windows 10 is worth trying. Give the bugbears some time to settle down.
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Sabin_Stargem: I figure that I will wait until Service Pack 1 before deciding if Windows 10 is worth trying. Give the bugbears some time to settle down.
There will not be service packs, this is a rolling relase, but a big patch is supposed to come in October, I think it's better to wait until then to see if most bugs and annoyances get fixed.
Post edited July 29, 2015 by enigmaxg2
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Sabin_Stargem: I figure that I will wait until Service Pack 1 before deciding if Windows 10 is worth trying. Give the bugbears some time to settle down.
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enigmaxg2: There will not be service packs, this is a rolling relase, but a big patch is supposed to come in October, I think it's better to wait until then to see if most bugs and annoyances get fixed.
Aren't service packs just another name for big patches?
I saw this in the agreement and it seemed unusually pleasant.
c. Small claims court option. Instead of mailing a Notice of Dispute, and if you meet the court’s requirements, you may sue us in small claims court in your county of residence (or if a business your principal place of business) or our principal place of business-King County, Washington USA if your dispute is with Microsoft. We hope you’ll mail a Notice of Dispute and give us 60 days to try to work it out, but you don’t have to before going to small claims court.
Patience is a virtue.
I've opted to do it. One of the advantages here is that I can unambiguously use this copy on my VM without having to worry about MS changing their mind at a future time.

The licensing terms on this copy appear to be a bit more generous than usual, which is probably a sign of something sinister. Still, I doubt very much that I'll be using it very much. There's a handful of things that I'll need Windows for, and most of the time I'll be using Linux anyways.

Still it's nice to have a copy of Windows for those few things I can't easily do without, but aren't available either.
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enigmaxg2: Here are my impressions with Windows 10 RTM:

The Good:

* New calendar and clock interface, also for networks and volume (the latter lacks a direct access to the mixer)
I found this new clock/calendar UI pretty oversized.

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enigmaxg2: The Bad:

* Unremovable preloaded apps: personally I don't use the contacts app, neither pictures, groove music or video and movies ones, why I should keep them if I don't like them, they are unremovable and interferes with file associations, I've tested them, tried Groove Music for a couple days, but seeing it take 200MB of RAM to play a single song, while WMP did the same with 12 and AIMP3 with 6, it's disappointing, also add that modern/universal apps could hibernate at system discretion, that is very irritating.
Their not show unistall option, but can be “uninstalled” via powershell, in this link is a guide:

http://anoopcnair.com/2015/03/03/remove-uninstall-windows-10-modern-applications

But one thing is certain, whit uninstall option or not, no one of the preloaded apps can be removed, their are only disabled.

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enigmaxg2: The Ugly:
* System almost begs you to ditch the local account in favour of a Microsoft one (this messes up local network shares) but some apps will not work well or will not work at all without it (mail, phone companion, windows store)
All those apps works without problem with a local account, only that when you open their for first time, you are asked to swich to a MSA or for login separately. Also I admit that is tedious.

for the mail app, at diference of the W8\8.1 mail app, not need any more of a MSA to run it. Anyway is a too basic app. You cannot print mails, you cannot merged diferent mail inbox... Except for the not need of a MSA to run it, is a total downgrade when compared with the W8.1 mail app.
Post edited July 29, 2015 by DalekSec
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ThorChild: For those worried/annoyed by the forced updates thing, MS provided a tool in the beta stage to get around that, and ZDnet have and article on that and where to get that tool:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-releases-tool-to-hide-or-block-unwanted-windows-10-updates/
The way that article reads, you first have to INSTALL the update - then if you "determine" the update "is causing problems" - THEN you can uninstall and hide it.

I'm basing that interpretation on the following from the article:

And here's the interface for hiding specific updates. If you've already determined that a Windows update or a driver delivered as part of a Windows Update package is causing problems, you need to uninstall the defective update or remove the problem driver. Then select its entry from this list.
If that's correct (you have to install first then uninstall and hide) - that is not acceptable to me. Will continue to pass on this.
I'm pretty much liking 10 so far, but for some reason shortcuts can't be pinned to the start menu (no Steam or Galaxy shortcuts for me I guess) and I can't stand that Windows now forces you to use Bing for search results. Fucking Bing! No one uses Bing, even Microsoft has to realize this.
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cogadh: I'm pretty much liking 10 so far, but for some reason shortcuts can't be pinned to the start menu (no Steam or Galaxy shortcuts for me I guess) and I can't stand that Windows now forces you to use Bing for search results. Fucking Bing! No one uses Bing, even Microsoft has to realize this.
Can you clarify what you mean by forcing you to use Bing! for search results? Do you mean if you search locally (like from the Start menu to find a program on the computer) that it actually produces Bing! results as well?