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teceem: Have you tried ACDSee too? I went with that because it was a lot cheaper...
Many years ago. I don't know where they are now, but the basic problem is - vendor lock-in. I got my categories, workflows and stuff neatly organised, I really don't want to do it all over again.

I went digital in 2007 when my oldest was born. That's ten thousands of photos.
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Dark_art_: Did I mention Gnome 3 it's slow?
I gave my mom (66) Ubuntu on a laptop with a Celeron and 4GB RAM and integrated graphics (Win 8 before). Default install - dunno what the desktop is there. Runs twice as fast as before, and she (with experience going back to Win 3.1) actually has more of a clue than with Win8. She's happy. Use cases are Browser, Email, viewing Photos, some text editing. Nothing more.
Post edited February 28, 2021 by toxicTom
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teceem: Have you tried ACDSee too? I went with that because it was a lot cheaper...
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toxicTom: Many years ago. I don't know where they are now, but the basic problem is - vendor lock-in. I got my categories, workflows and stuff neatly organised, I really don't want to do it all over again.

I went digital in 2007 when my oldest was born. That's ten thousands of photos.
I know - there's nothing you could've done about (vendor lock-in) - Personal tags just isn't part of the jpg format. And I've never found a good open source picture manager... (still, while then there wouldn't be a vendor - it's still a lock-in)
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toxicTom: My requirement is Visual Studio Professional and SQL Server (latest version...). For work, obviously.
And IMatch... which I use to organise my photos. There are hundreds of hours in that too.
Two of three of those things can be replaced, but Visual Studio...That's a bit more tricky. Since VS does things in a very Microsofty way. At the very least, you wouldn't be out of options for photo viewers or SQL implementations.
I despise Windows 10 but also acknowledge the unfortunate reality that I'll have to upgrade soon. Thankfully CDPR were cool enough to support 7 for Cyberpunk. When I upgrade, I'm going to try to run a dual boot of 7 and 10 because I can't stand 10, I'd only use it for games that absolutely require it.

That being said, one of my many gripes with 10 is its atrocious UI. If they are doing more to allow 10 users to customize the UI and make it look more like the Aero Glass style of 7 (which was, objectively speaking, a lot prettier), then that's taking away one reason for me to not want to change to it.
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I don't care what Microsoft says in regards to it's support or the 'lifetime' of the OS. Win7 is the last version of windows i'll use. (Unless they pull their heads out of their asses and don't shove 'windows as a service' and spying on you and ads). I have no intention of moving to their Windows 10, and i'd rather build a linux system rather than downgrade to their crap.

Honestly i'd still be using XP SP3; though i didn't have a 64bit OS for it. A new computer with Win7 Home on it showed it was a good enough OS to not throw out. And getting used to NTFS and past the 4Gb limit of files was nice (Especially preparing ripping and working on ISO files)

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timppu: stopped accepting updates to my Windows 7, fortunately just before MS apparently added some Win10-like telemetry to it in an update. For all I know, MS will add, if they haven't already, a nag screen that Windows 7 support has ended and you really should move on to Windows 10. I'm trying to avoid all that.
Ditto. Then i remember the pushed 'Move to windows 10 for FREEEEEE' push for like 6 months, where they pushed updates where you could accept or deny it. Then they removed the 'deny' button. Then hitting the X was the same as hitting Yes. Malware approaches to pushing their OS. Since i never downloaded said updates, i was never plagued with a 10Gb download or that BS. Although the torrented approach to sharing the updates/download wasn't a bad idea, the fact you couldn't opt out was annoying, and most updates you can only 'defer' for a little while. At least until the settings happen to 'forget' back to their preferred defaults and you get full telemetry or whatnot.

Yes i have a lot of gripes on Win 10. Including the pushed updates that break compatibility, the windows store, and the push for their UWP.

Course if we backtrack to windows 8 where every computer was a tablet... yeah, when trying to help a friend i was ready to throw their computer out the window.
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Lighten up chaps, it soon will be windows XI that rules all

and the menu merges using sprouts from 7 & 10

I can't wait to be honest, already got me preview install of the sunny patch up and running

and really, these jumps ahead can't be as fast as possible

while i'm nowhere near a professional range user i did understand that a good windows version equals games with more tricks available to them
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rtcvb32: Ditto. Then i remember the pushed 'Move to windows 10 for FREEEEEE' push for like 6 months, where they pushed updates where you could accept or deny it. Then they removed the 'deny' button.
I actually accepted that, especially since I was eligible for the Pro version of Windows 10. I did it just so that this laptop would be registered eligible for Windows 10, just in case.

After that was done, I just re-installed Windows 7 from a clean table. :) It was time for that anyway, so much clutter had accumulated already.

Anyway it doesn't seem I will be using Windows 10 on this aging gaming laptop, simply no need. Windows 7 is there for Windows-only games, and beside that I have installed Linux Mint which I use for non-gaming stuff (esp. going online), and increasingly also games, even many Windows games with WINE. It is an OEM (preloaded) license anyway so I can't transfer it to some other newer PC.

My newer and future PCs will have Windows 10 anyway preloaded, laptops as they most probably are. I already have one Windows 10 PC, my work laptop (which runs semi-new games quite well too). So it is not a hard "no" for Windows 10 from me, just so that I don't see myself upgrading my existing Windows 7 OEM installations to Windows 10. Not much benefit in that.

In fact, on one older Windows 7 laptop of mine, I actually went the opposite direction: I removed Windows 7 and installed Windows XP (for some very old games), and Linux with dual-boot. This allowed me finally play my retail copy of the "Peter Jackson's King Kong - The Movie" game, which does not work at all on Windows 7 or newer due to its disc copy protection, and my other older retro-gaming Windows XP machines were too slow for that game which appeared quite late in XP's lifespan.

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rtcvb32: Yes i have a lot of gripes on Win 10. Including the pushed updates that break compatibility, the windows store, and the push for their UWP.
Frankly I've lost track what are Microsoft's intentions with that. Sometimes they really seemed to push that and sometimes not. From the oldest to the "newest":

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-wants-to-close-the-uwp-win32-divide-with-windows-apps/

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3518853/microsoft-shovels-more-dirt-on-uwp-apps-leaving-win32-apps-as-the-future-once-again.html

https://www.howtogeek.com/673351/microsoft-will-merge-uwp-and-win32-apps-with-project-reunion/

Sometimes they are really pushing UWP, sometimes "killing it", sometimes merging Win32 and UWP together... who the heck knows anymore. Maybe MS has increasingly lost interest to "PC" overall, Azure cloud is their future.

I guess I will not care as long as it doesn't affect my PC usage (like NOT buying my games from the MS Store).
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Zimerius: Lighten up chaps, it soon will be windows XI that rules all

and the menu merges using sprouts from 7 & 10

I can't wait to be honest, already got me preview install of the sunny patch up and running

and really, these jumps ahead can't be as fast as possible

while i'm nowhere near a professional range user i did understand that a good windows version equals games with more tricks available to them
cool , i install it too tomorrow