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rjbuffchix: Anyway, kudos to OP for doing something very rare: staying in the Scheme ecosystem a long time yet then getting out. It seems to me their business model is designed to get people spending more than they realize in sales, building up these huge libraries...thus making it difficult to then leave for a DRM-free store. The longer you stay in Scheme ecosystem investing more and more, the less you will feel comfortable about leaving. Sunk cost fallacy 101.
This actually resonates with me a lot.

It *was* a bit like a cult actually - the more you used the different features of Steam, like the social stuff, forums, activity feed, groups, friends chat and others, you got seriously invested in STeam - maybe even addicted. Nevermind dumping a lot of money into it, indeed Sunk cost fallacy.

And leaving the cult is really hard - cutting yourself off from the social aspects, and then not being able to buy and experience new Steam exclusive games, that you would want to play.

I still think I made the right decision - my biggest reason is of course that I no longer see Valve/Steam as the saviour of PC gaming - it's almost the villain these days, and it's insane market share should be re-thought and reconsidered.
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As you've mentioned Steam's Proton development I should say that even if GOG doesn't actively support Linux in the same way, you'll find that this community has some nice resources for gaming on Linux in case you're interested in that.

That being said, welcome and beware of derailing topics into political arguments as this is, I believe, not accepted here either.
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rojimboo: I no longer see Valve/Steam as the saviour of PC gaming - it's almost the villain these days, and it's insane market share should be re-thought and reconsidered.
For sure, though if you ask me, it was the villain the whole time. There's a good "Unpopular Opinions about gaming" type topic elsewhere on this forum. I'm pretty sure it has come up a couple times about whether it was good or not for gaming to "go mainstream". There's no denying that Scheme increased the sales and audience of PC gaming but in my view that was actually to the detriment of PC gaming itself, which was of a higher quality when it was a smaller, more dedicated niche market. So you could look at it as what Scheme did was morphing, not necessarily saving, the PC gaming market.

It also set off a snowball effect since it proved customers will accept DRM and proprietary clients, so now there are very few big games without such. They have re-framed the discussion so thoroughly that now the primary complaint of customers is that [insert big new "AAA" game here] is on Epic or EA rather than Scheme where the rest of their game library (which they are effectively renting) is. The primary complaint of customers regarding all of these big new games should instead be that the games have a virtual killswitch built inside of it (DRM).

And yes, avoiding political talk is advised :)
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zenstar: imo that other thread is way too aggressive (the title alone is starting off on the wrong foot) and demands way more than a reasonable person would expect from support. and is also quite a contrast to the opinion of the OP from this thread

but /shrug, just my opinion
Wasn't actually referring to that thread. Just used to seeing people disappointed when a new game comes out and there's no linux version available on GOG despite it being available elsewhere. Also, that Galaxy wasn't supported on Linux I believe? Granted I don't follow the topic too closely.
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rojimboo: This actually resonates with me a lot.

It *was* a bit like a cult actually - the more you used the different features of Steam, like the social stuff, forums, activity feed, groups, friends chat and others, you got seriously invested in STeam - maybe even addicted. Nevermind dumping a lot of money into it, indeed Sunk cost fallacy.

And leaving the cult is really hard - cutting yourself off from the social aspects, and then not being able to buy and experience new Steam exclusive games, that you would want to play.

I still think I made the right decision - my biggest reason is of course that I no longer see Valve/Steam as the saviour of PC gaming - it's almost the villain these days, and it's insane market share should be re-thought and reconsidered.
The phrase that might enlighten you is Limbic Capitalism.
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zenstar: imo that other thread is way too aggressive (the title alone is starting off on the wrong foot) and demands way more than a reasonable person would expect from support. and is also quite a contrast to the opinion of the OP from this thread

but /shrug, just my opinion
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Pheace: Wasn't actually referring to that thread. Just used to seeing people disappointed when a new game comes out and there's no linux version available on GOG despite it being available elsewhere. Also, that Galaxy wasn't supported on Linux I believe? Granted I don't follow the topic too closely.
fair enough. i don't follow the linux stuff closely but when i do it does seem to be (imo ofc) overly negative.
might just be a bias on my side.

I don't think galaxy is supported on linux. from the page:
"GOG GALAXY 2.0 Open Beta requires Windows 8 or newer.
Available also on Mac OS X."

but it's not like you need the launcher. it's nice to have the option but it's not a requirement
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Linko64: Because the Witcher 3 got popular pretty much. Most people, the video game media being a key example, rarely mentioned any Slavic studios/titles till the Witcher 3.

I mean it's cool a country/region gets more attention these days, i just wish people would look beyond a pretty Westernised entry into the Euro-scene.
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idbeholdME: It was definitely on the map before the Witcher 3. Studios like People Can Fly (Painkiller, Bulletstorm), Farm 51 (NecrovisioN), Flying Wild Hog (Hard Reset, Shadow Warrior), Techland (Call of Juarez). Yes, they were mostly FPS games, but good and popular ones nonetheless.

Saying that Poland got on the game dev map only after the Witcher 3 is just false.
Highlighted the part you missed, less haste more detail my dude ;)
Post edited February 05, 2020 by Linko64
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Linko64: Highlighted the part you missed, less haste more detail my dude ;)
Did not miss it and I disagree. Don't know what gaming media you had in mind, but that was definitely not the case, here at least. Could be because I live in one of those slav countries that they got normal exposure like any other game, be it gaming magazines, TV shows or local sites aimed at gaming.
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Linko64: Highlighted the part you missed, less haste more detail my dude ;)
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idbeholdME: Did not miss it and I disagree. Don't know what gaming media you had in mind, but that was definitely not the case, here at least. Could be because I live in one of those slav countries that they got normal exposure like any other game, be it gaming magazines, TV shows or local sites aimed at gaming.
You live in a Slavic country mate, why would my comment apply to games media from Slavic regions, come on now lol
TLDR, but I skimmed and approve of you supporting DRM free and diversity in the PC gaming space.
Glad to see that you've come around! IIRC, you made a post years ago about canceling your Witcher 3 preorder because of CDPR's DRM free policies/Free DLC. I hope you finally get to enjoy it in all its glory!
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itchanddino: Glad to see that you've come around! IIRC, you made a post years ago about canceling your Witcher 3 preorder because of CDPR's DRM free policies/Free DLC. I hope you finally get to enjoy it in all its glory!
thanks

Yeah, Witcher 3 is already wishlisted, and will be my first purchase after I get my paycheck ;)

I was a huge fan of the first one, still one of my faves. A bit disappointed in the 2nd one actually. Then I didn't buy the 3rd one due to my beliefs at the time.

But now that Steam is dead to me, and I'm purely on Linux, things look different.

A tad disappointed Witcher 3 is not on Linux, but I mean, apparently it works great on WINE so, not really bothered. Looking forward to it.
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timppu: I don't get it. Why is everyone nowadays so hot on Poland, everyone likes them and wants to move to Poland? Just look at Hitler and Stalin, they both wanted part of it too.
So that you get it : if it were not Stalin, you would not even be able to post. Or, more exactly, you will be able to post, but neither this forum, nor GOG, nor Poland or Poles would exist. That also defines who actually wanted to keep or "unkeep" the Poland. And which side your country took.
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rojimboo: ...
I see where you were coming from, but still be aware that most developers (unfortunately) take GOG less serious than Steam when it comes about fixing their own bugs. Sometimes there is also a trace of a proprietary abadonware policy aka "we have to keep us running, so we will ignore you" in the games, but its not dependent on the distributor; just in combination with the first, it leads to devs sometimes not delivering here, what they patched on Steam.

I agree with your second statement in the matter that had no need to install, upkeep and follow the policy of the client how to manage the library or versions, thats an advantage, I think.
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rojimboo: A tad disappointed Witcher 3 is not on Linux, but I mean, apparently it works great on WINE so, not really bothered. Looking forward to it.
Hm, I am in same league here.