Thanks. Also considering Pale Moon.

BTW, can you export Firefox bookmarks into Waterfox?

I didn't try because I'm using Pale Moon, but I suppose so, most surely you can export them to html and then import.

Firefox: Bookmarks -> Show All Bookmarks ->Import and Backup along the top -> Export Bookmarks to HTML.

I don't have PaleMoon installed here so I;m not sure but it's probably the same but Import instead of Export on the last step.

I'm becoming less of a fan of Firefox because over the last few years, their developers keep removing config options that were used in accessibility.

Most of our soccer moms use Chrome although they worry about privacy with Google. Of course they worried about privacy with Mozilla too....

So just a quick question here, is there really a need for a download manager in this day and age?

When you're downloading large files, the ability to "resume" is very important if you have a data cap and limited funds. Beyond that, DTA is a major time saver, increasing my download speed 2-3 times, depending on the site I'm downloading from. And it isn't a resource hog.

you know I can't blame Mozilla for having existentialist concerns. the plan to drop XUL isn't new. it wasn't just a case of bending to move with the times either; there were good practical engineering reasons to wanting to move away from XUL once css and html got more features added. the thing is though you can't blame Mozilla for it. is it really fair to be so mad at them for it? should they keep the permissive model and do all the work and ride the ship all the way down? there would be people then later on to call them stupid for that, too. saying they didn't adapt, saying they were blockheaded and narrowminded and stuck to their roots and stubbornly serve a niche with no wiggle room and look where it got them. the things that made sense for Mozilla years and years ago don't necessarily make sense anymore if you're Mozilla and your goal is to try and keep being Mozilla.

as for the conspiracy angle I won't dismiss that entirely out of hand like a lot of people will but it seems unlikely.

to approach this with indignation and be all mad and proclaim you're moving away from Firefox because they've gone evil or gone stupid and you're not going to tolerate this betrayal or something like that is just complete bullshit because it doesn't take into account how things look from their end and is just not right outside of aforementioned unlikely conspiracy angle. all I'm saying is you can disagree with the path Mozilla is taking on this and you can think it's the wrong decision strategically but to attack them for it is wrong in my opinion.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10655032

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13675097

I have no attachment to Mozilla so I don't feel betrayed. I've been thinking about finding a better browser for some time, so these developments are just an incentive to get it done.

Most non-profits are run by people who only know for-profit management, so there's a heavy emphasis on growth and profitability, but I don't see much growth potential for Mozilla. Opera tried to be more like Chrome and it didn't work out so good, and I doubt that Mozilla is going to fare any better.