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General discussionTim Sweeny completely off his rocker, says Monopoly is good.(34 posts)(34 posts)
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Posted November 16, 2021
Yes, the man who decided to sue Apple (already a smart idea) over their device monopoly (a valid concern from completely the wrong angle), has gone flying off his rocker of already loose sanity and fallen into a sea of unreality, declaring that the solution to a monopoly is a monopoly.

Hey, it sounds stupid. But to quote from the Bloomberg article:
Epic Games Inc. Chief Executive Officer Tim Sweeney renewed his attack on Apple Inc. and Alphabet Inc.'s Google as the world's dominant mobile duopoly before calling for a universal app store that works across all operating systems as the solution.

"What the world really needs now is a single store that works with all platforms," Sweeney said in an interview in Seoul on Tuesday. "Right now software ownership is fragmented between the iOS App Store, the Android Google Play marketplace, different stores on Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo Switch, and then Microsoft Store and the Mac App Store." Epic is working with developers and service providers to create a system that would allow users "to buy software in one place, knowing that they'd have it on all devices and all platforms."

Earlier in the day, Sweeney left no doubt about his disapproval of the smartphone software status quo in remarks at the Global Conference for Mobile Application Ecosystem Fairness in South Korea, home to the world's first law requiring mobile platforms to give users a choice of payment handlers. His company's battle royale game Fortnite has been the subject of a bitter legal dispute with Apple and Google over the revenue split of sales on their platforms.

"Apple locks a billion users into one store and payment processor," he said. "Now Apple complies with oppressive foreign laws, which surveil users and deprive them of political rights. But Apple is ignoring laws passed by Korea's democracy. Apple must be stopped."

Google also earned a strong rebuke from Sweeney, who criticized its approach of charging fees on payments it doesn't process as "crazy." Praising Korea for leading the fight against monopolistic practices and including anti-retaliation provisions to protect developers in its legislation, the Epic Games founder said "I'm very proud to stand up against these monopolies with you. I'm proud to stand with you and say I'm a Korean."
Did I mention I'm an advocate of forcing people in high places to comply with psychological checks on a quarterly basis?

What a charlatan, the guy who made his own store on the PC just to spite Steam; why doesn't he follow his own words and close the damn thing?
Posted November 16, 2021
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Darvond: Yes, the man who decided to sue Apple (already a smart idea) over their device monopoly (a valid concern from completely the wrong angle), has gone flying off his rocker of already loose sanity and fallen into a sea of unreality, declaring that the solution to a monopoly is a monopoly.

Hey, it sounds stupid. But to quote from the Bloomberg article:
A ton of the news outlets lie heavily and misrepresent. So i'd take anything from Bloomberg with a grain of salt. Anything they refer to i'd rather see the source rather than their interpretation and/or lies.
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Darvond: What a charlatan, the guy who made his own store on the PC just to spite Steam; why doesn't he follow his own words and close the damn thing?
What should he have put his store on? There's only PC/Mac/Linux, and Android and iOS.

Oh right, he should have put it on the PDP-11 right?
Posted November 16, 2021
Pretty weird comments. In my experience though people who love Steam tend to argue they hate monopolies and exclusives as well, even though they support a platform with tons of both. I think it's easy to get detached from reality and think what you hate and love are much more different than they really are. His fight with Apple especially is obviously personal on some level.
Posted November 16, 2021
He does have a point on fragmented and repeated purchasing the same thing. It would be nice to a "buy once, have forever, every platform and format" model. But that's the opposite of what IP companies want and do, and preventing that is entirely why they implement DRM, proprietary systems, and other such shit in the first place.

It's a solvable problem, without invoking monopoly stores and DRM and stuff. But it wouldn't be done that way for sure.
Post edited November 16, 2021 by mqstout
Posted November 16, 2021
More drama from big corporations and their bosses. How fascinating.
Posted November 16, 2021
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mqstout: He does have a point on fragmented and repeated purchasing the same thing. It would be nice to a "buy once, have forever, every platform and format" model.
That would only ever work if there was some kind of controlling overlord, which would have tons of negative aspects. Way more than using half a dozen clients does. Also I fail to see what it has to do with DRM, that overlord would still want to stop piracy as much as possible. GOG wouldn't exist if Valve (for example) controlled the entire market.
Posted November 16, 2021
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The capitalisation in the title made me think this thread was going to be about Monopoly the boardgame.
Posted November 16, 2021
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Of course monopoly is good. When it's MY monopoly.

-Every CEO, every day, ever.
Posted November 16, 2021
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HappyPunkPotato: The capitalisation in the title made me think this thread was going to be about Monopoly the boardgame.
Same here :-) and I think the game is only so so.
Posted November 16, 2021
Lol, what a jerk. Should have stayed with his barber job.
Posted November 16, 2021
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HappyPunkPotato: The capitalisation in the title made me think this thread was going to be about Monopoly the boardgame.
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Themken: Same here :-) and I think the game is only so so.
Maybe try this version.
Posted November 16, 2021
I prefer to be the old boot, and why have they never had an aircraft ?, for all the high flyers... :P
Posted November 16, 2021
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Darvond: Yes, the man who decided to sue Apple (already a smart idea) over their device monopoly (a valid concern from completely the wrong angle), has gone flying off his rocker of already loose sanity and fallen into a sea of unreality, declaring that the solution to a monopoly is a monopoly.

Hey, it sounds stupid. But to quote from the Bloomberg article:
"What the world really needs now is a single store that works with all platforms," Sweeney said in an interview in Seoul on Tuesday. "Right now software ownership is fragmented between the iOS App Store, the Android Google Play marketplace, different stores on Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo Switch, and then Microsoft Store and the Mac App Store." Epic is working with developers and service providers to create a system that would allow users "to buy software in one place, knowing that they'd have it on all devices and all platforms."

What a charlatan, the guy who made his own store on the PC just to spite Steam; why doesn't he follow his own words and close the damn thing?
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Darvond:
Unless something is missing here, he is talking about different technological platforms having their own distribution platforms, instead of having a platform that is accessible regardless of what hardware you have.

Wouldn't that be a good thing?

One store where you could get stuff for Windows, Mac, Linux, iPhone, Android, perhaps even Playstation and Xbox?

I guess this is a bit strange thing to say: "What the world really needs now is a single store--".
And that can of course be interpreted as seeing a monopoly as a good thing, but since we currently have no stores at all which would fit the description, you can also read the comment as "we need at least one alternative".

Maybe the dude was vague on purpose, who knows.

But basically he is correct, but perhaps the business that he is working for isn't the answer to the question he is raising.
Posted November 16, 2021
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PixelBoy: Unless something is missing here, he is talking about different technological platforms having their own distribution platforms, instead of having a platform that is accessible regardless of what hardware you have.

Wouldn't that be a good thing?
Who would run this hypothetical store?
Posted November 16, 2021
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HappyPunkPotato: The capitalisation in the title made me think this thread was going to be about Monopoly the boardgame.
I must have wondered for about a minute why liking Monopoly (the board game) would throw someone off his rocker. Ended up thinking if The Settlers of Catan would be any better for someone's mental health, before actually opening the thread... and my road to disillusion :P.
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