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Posted November 09, 2015
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Shadowstalker16: I wouldn't be too worried since kids going to be playing / watching this will at least have a basic understanding or normalcy concept of who is responsible for what.
Where are they supposed to learn that?
From parents or teachers? Ha...ha...ha...
Where are those in turn supposed to learn it? That ship has sailed long ago.

Today, noone feels responsible for anything, so in a way, the children are learning the current way of the world with this game.
Post edited November 09, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Posted November 09, 2015
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Leroux: You're overthinking it. The game sounds cute. I believe yokai have a tradition in Japanese folklore and there are countless stories about yokai playing tricks on humans. And I mean, even though it's probably less rooted in our culture, we do have a tradition of fairy tales about e.g. household spirits or mischievous pixies that you can blame stuff on in Europe, too. I don't think the average six year old would take that seriously and apply it to their own family situation. Children are able to understand metaphors, too, and if they even try to find a moral in the game's stories, I doubt it would be "whatever I do, it's not my fault"; it could just as well be "if other people act mean, they don't always mean it ways, maybe they're just under a bad influence / in a bad mood". So this could also comfort them and help them empathize with others, but frankly I believe children will just perceive it as a nice (or funny) story.

But yeah, occasionally I have these thoughts, too. Like when I read a novel for teenagers with a heroine who started out strong willed, rebellious and independent and ended up a hopeless romantic who didn't find life worth living without the boy she fell in love with. Talk about coming of age. :P
Yeah, you're probably right, and you even managed to spin it as something good, so I'll try to look at it in that way.

I guess my problem with it was a combination of Yokais being responsible for everything, really, from obsessive personalities to overeating, and how for as much as I love magical realism, I hate people's agency being taken away. It's one of the big reasons why I hate both prophecies in fiction and Twilight.
Posted November 09, 2015
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Leroux: You're overthinking it. The game sounds cute. I believe yokai have a tradition in Japanese folklore and there are countless stories about yokai playing tricks on humans. And I mean, even though it's probably less rooted in our culture, we do have a tradition of fairy tales about e.g. household spirits or mischievous pixies that you can blame stuff on in Europe, too. I don't think the average six year old would take that seriously and apply it to their own family situation. Children are able to understand metaphors, too, and if they even try to find a moral in the game's stories, I doubt it would be "whatever I do, it's not my fault"; it could just as well be "if other people act mean, they don't always mean it ways, maybe they're just under a bad influence / in a bad mood". So this could also comfort them and help them empathize with others, but frankly I believe children will just perceive it as a nice (or funny) story.

But yeah, occasionally I have these thoughts, too. Like when I read a novel for teenagers with a heroine who started out strong willed, rebellious and independent and ended up a hopeless romantic who didn't find life worth living without the boy she fell in love with. Talk about coming of age. :P
Speaking of western mythology - it's really convenient indeed:

"Hey kid, you're daddy wasn't unfaithful, he got assaulted by a succubus."

>Was it the same one hat was in mommy's room last month making her do weird things?<

"This one's called an incubus."
Post edited November 09, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Posted November 09, 2015
Pokemon itself is fairly evil.
Sentient creatures traped and forced to fight for the enjoyment of others.
Posted November 10, 2015
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Shadowstalker16: I wouldn't be too worried since kids going to be playing / watching this will at least have a basic understanding or normalcy concept of who is responsible for what.
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Klumpen0815: Where are they supposed to learn that?
From parents or teachers? Ha...ha...ha...
Where are those in turn supposed to learn it? That ship has sailed long ago.

Today, noone feels responsible for anything, so in a way, the children are learning the current way of the world with this game.
Its my belief that medias like games and books will not harm a mentally healthy adult person because an adult will have an established normalcy, morality and ethicality standards. Ie people aren't going to read 50 shades and suddenly get up, forget their socialization and morality and become a rapist just like that. Similarly, I think the children who may watch this will have a decent grip on reality and at least enough knowledge imparted from parents / teachers or observed by themselves to understand all this is fiction.
Posted November 10, 2015
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Emob78: Now I know you're trolling. Somehow you can manage to turn absolutely ANY topic into a war on gendered bathrooms. What is it with you and bathrooms? Someone could make a post asking whether to go with wood paneling or porcelain tile for their new kitchen decor, and yet you'd spin it to be about the bathroom patriarchy. For fuck sake, give it a rest.
Honestly I'm surprised Polygon hasn't recruited dtgreene by now, seeing as to how he can bring this topic up in any context.
Posted November 10, 2015
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Breja: I thought you're supposed to think of England, but whatever works I guess...
I think of the Queen when I'm in the bathroom.

It gives me a sense of pride knowing that my excrement has the same worth as the whole monarchy.
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mechmouse: Pokemon itself is fairly evil.
Sentient creatures traped and forced to fight for the enjoyment of others.
It took me years to come to that point.

When I did I realized it was so henious.

And that the willing pokemon were basically little uncle toms. Complacent in the slavery of their own kind.
Post edited November 10, 2015 by ScotchMonkey
Posted November 10, 2015
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Charon121: Are kids really that sensitive? Blaming themselves for anything? 'Cause I remember, when I was a kid, I used to blame everyone else for the stupid things I did. First my cousin, then my younger brother. Sometimes they believed me, too! :D
That's not sensitivity that is sociopathy.
Posted November 10, 2015
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Charon121: Are kids really that sensitive? Blaming themselves for anything? 'Cause I remember, when I was a kid, I used to blame everyone else for the stupid things I did. First my cousin, then my younger brother. Sometimes they believed me, too! :D
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ScotchMonkey: That's not sensitivity that is sociopathy.
Indeed. People are nothing but mere playthings for sociopaths.
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yogsloth: A doctor, a lawyer, and a priest walk into an orphanage.

Suddenly, the building catches fire! Flames are everywhere, and the three of them find themselves near the entrance, ready to make their escape.

"But wait!" cries the doctor, "The children!"

"F*** the children!" shouts the lawyer.

"But do we have time?" asks the priest.
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tort1234: I agree with the lawyer.

What we have today is nothing but garbage, slutty generation being raised by garbage, morally, culturally bankrupt parents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veMYmFpyNic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbYYiEukvlk
When the younger generations gain power in this world, we are all fucked, seriously. But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got Electrolytes!

On the bright side, we have them to thank for tons of new entertaining content on the internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_VdqmRYlxo
Post edited November 10, 2015 by monkeydelarge
Posted November 10, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I would rather think of the parents whose job it is to look after their children and that means what kind of entertainment those aforementioned children consume.
^This.

Most important: Talking about it with them.
Posted November 10, 2015
I think parents should look after their children.
They should not buy 3DS to kids. :P

14 yrs old kids are having sex and no one bats an eye, A game gets released and everybody loses their mind.
Posted November 10, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I would rather think of the parents whose job it is to look after their children and that means what kind of entertainment those aforementioned children consume.
That is assuming that the parents are good people. Some parents are bad, and in some cases, downright abusive.

(By the way, I asked a question on the Gurumin board about whether the game works in WINE. Perhaps you could check and post your results there?)
Posted November 10, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I would rather think of the parents whose job it is to look after their children and that means what kind of entertainment those aforementioned children consume.
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dtgreene: That is assuming that the parents are good people. Some parents are bad, and in some cases, downright abusive.
That goes without saying :)
Posted November 10, 2015
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dtgreene: That is assuming that the parents are good people. Some parents are bad, and in some cases, downright abusive.
The Yokai made them do it.
Posted November 10, 2015
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DaCostaBR: Have you ever felt that way about something?
nah, it's the parent job/duty to look after his own children.
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