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Atlantico: I mean, I'm all open to ideas, I just don't see it. The liquid can't make anything dangerous, even when heated, nicotine is nicotine, and that's about it for contents of e-cigs.
Well, some studies and quite terrifying stories keep popping up. Considering how much the tobacco lobby hates e-cigarettes the small amount of often not particularly convincing news about health risks related to e-cigs suggests that none have been discovered so far (that horror story about the Texan teenager who died of super rapidly spreading lung cancer less than a year after picking up vaping sounds almost absurd). Also the fact that more than 90% of the stories I've read about the risks were about drinking the liquid or exploding batteries suggests that they haven't actually got any basis for accusing vaping itself of health risks. Still, fact is that even if the ingredients are all known to be harmless and used in tons of other products, nobody knows the potential long-term effects related to inhaling this stuff in this form on a regular basis. The other thing is that the lack of regulations so far means that you don't actually know what's really inside the liquids.

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Atlantico: I hope you find a way to improve your health
So do I.
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Atlantico: I mean, I'm all open to ideas, I just don't see it. The liquid can't make anything dangerous, even when heated, nicotine is nicotine, and that's about it for contents of e-cigs.
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F4LL0UT: Well, some studies and quite terrifying stories keep popping up. Considering how much the tobacco lobby hates e-cigarettes the small amount of often not particularly convincing news about health risks related to e-cigs suggests that none have been discovered so far (that horror story about the Texan teenager who died of super rapidly spreading lung cancer less than a year after picking up vaping sounds almost absurd). Also the fact that more than 90% of the stories I've read about the risks were about drinking the liquid or exploding batteries suggests that they haven't actually got any basis for accusing vaping itself of health risks. Still, fact is that even if the ingredients are all known to be harmless and used in tons of other products, nobody knows the potential long-term effects related to inhaling this stuff in this form on a regular basis. The other thing is that the lack of regulations so far means that you don't actually know what's really inside the liquids.

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Atlantico: I hope you find a way to improve your health
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F4LL0UT: So do I.
PG and VG are very safe for consumption. PG in aerosolized form is somewhat of a concern however. You do see some people have a minor reaction, say 1 in 100. Any discomfort seems to end when the vapping of a PG heavy mixture is stopped.

As for the lack of regs, I see the point concerning a full list of ingredients and standard manufacturing process. Some brands and dealers have some sub par product for sure. Like anything else only buy from a reputable dealer who knows his product.

However I see articles that amount calling for regulation, but for the wrong reasons. Moral panics and "concerned mothers" never have anything positive to contribute.. The Feds who stand to lose tax revenue from tobacco sales are probably gonna start hyping up the panic in the yellow way that they do.
So its day two of no cigarettes.... I am using a vape when I feel the urge. I got a Cool Fire IV. Any tips on watts and in general?
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EBToriginal: The big thing that convinced me to quit was the large tobacco players putting their money in to laws banning cloves. Fuck you Phillip Morris and RJR, if I can't smoke my preferred product I am not smoking your piss poor quality adulterated trash.
Do you remember Sweet Dreams?
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I'd quit myself but can't stop rolling rollies ; )
Fags on USB? Sound as much useful as cybersex to me..
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EBToriginal: The big thing that convinced me to quit was the large tobacco players putting their money in to laws banning cloves. Fuck you Phillip Morris and RJR, if I can't smoke my preferred product I am not smoking your piss poor quality adulterated trash.
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Emachine9643: Do you remember Sweet Dreams?
I sure do, not my number one choice (Djarum) but a fine item in it's own right too.
I'm just glad this isn't the 18+ gaping thread.
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Post edited December 22, 2015 by drealmer7
bump!
Only experience I have with vaping was doing some weed out of a lightbulb back when I was a teen. It was 100x better than smoking it though, I hate the way smoke makes my throat and lungs feel.
\//\ VapeNation
Post edited April 17, 2016 by tfishell
I don't smoke, but some of the people that I work with do. When they come in from a break, the ones that smoke smell horrible and they don't even know it so they casually enter my room and I choke and get a headache. Even if they don't come anywhere near, the smell carries in their clothes or lungs and it enters from the corridor. I'm glad I have a window that I can open.

The ones that vape smell like vanilla or something nice. They're much more pleasant to be around. I'm not convinced at all that the practise is safe, but given how harmful smoking is, it would be amazing if it was anything comparable.

Still, I wish they didn't do it inside which I've seen some of them do. I think it's against the rules, too.
Seeing the title I expected this to be about vampire porn.
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tfishell: \//\ VapeNation
Shine on you magnificent bastard \//\
necro-bump