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kai2: While mechanics appeal to a small portion of the market (where they are debated and analyzed), the broader general market doesn't care about mechanics other than "is it cool?" But the broader general audience is interested ATM in "is it diverse?"
But is it? For example, as far as I know, when Freedom Planet was released, no one cared if protagonists there were female. People were only interested in Sonic-like mechanics and Sonic-like story (well, Sonic Archie comics story to be exact). And the same people were enjoying Sonic Mania for the same reason.

Granted, Freedom Planet is an indie game (as to some extent Sonic Mania) but I really doubt that people who play AAA games really different.
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kai2: I find the recent Skyrim Grandma / VG247 scenario to be absolutely crazy.

I've never seen a time -- until the last few years -- where media outlets dedicated to particular entertainment markets showed such outward contempt for those very same markets -- their own readership. Is creating false stories and making broad accusations -- against their own readership nonetheless -- an avenue to improved sales, viewership, and readership? I cannot fathom what these outlets' business strategies are ATM.
only one thing we can learn from this , their readers are very immature if they still hang on the site after these
When it comes to gaming news I stick to independent people on YouTube.
I Read mostly on dsogaming but I do sometimes check Eurogamer for anything related to Digital Foundry. Eurogamer is otherwise a hyper-poltical gossip blog nowadays.
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Karterii12: As with all Internet-related nuisances, it's best to just ignore them I think. These sorts of problems do just disappear when you don't pay attention to them. Games Journalists (like YouTubers) thrive on creating and spreading drama.
An absolute piece of wisdom.
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StingingVelvet: Same old arguments from the same old people. No one's changing their minds, tribal warfare is a helluva drug.

Game journalism is mostly crap because: A) Most of it is written by job starved college grads working for nothing, and B) the way websites make money is getting you to click and share their articles, and they know you do it when the headline annoys you or backs up your biases.
B-b-b-b-but if you complain, scream and cry like a baby the other side will be forced to cave in and change their ways. If you don't like something, nobody should be able to enjoy it. It's only fair!

Screw the power of the market and buying things you enjoy so that more of it will be produced, if you don't like something it's your right to have it altered or purged from the face of the earth. Because, feeelz!

And yeah, journos are submitting tribal drama garbage because that's what people are interested in. If it's garbage we want to read, then we will be supplied with garbage. They don't care if you read it out of spite or not, a click is a click.

The most hilarious dynamic in this is the trickle-down-garbagenomics where Youtubers catch the breadcrumbs falling off the table so they can make money off it as well while pretending to be outraged. I bet they are outraged all the way to the bank alright.
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DadJoke007: The most hilarious dynamic in this is the trickle-down-garbagenomics where Youtubers catch the breadcrumbs falling off the table so they can make money off it as well while pretending to be outraged. I bet they are outraged all the way to the bank alright.
We're gonna replace manufacturing with an outrage economy. It'll be glorious.
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StingingVelvet: We're gonna replace manufacturing with an outrage economy. It'll be glorious.
Even though this is clearly meant in jest(I think), the sad fact is that if enough people lose their jobs and enough businesses close down that might actually partially come true(or replace the word outrage with some other new "cottage industry" that pops up down the line to help people make ends meet, etc).
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DadJoke007: And yeah, journos are submitting tribal drama garbage because that's what people are interested in. If it's garbage we want to read, then we will be supplied with garbage. They don't care if you read it out of spite or not, a click is a click.
They might be getting paid directly to do so which is why you can call them Eurogaymer or PCgaymer for their PC articles.

Or RPS and their articles along these topics. https://archive.vn/cXk4n
I have to admit that I've stopped reading any form of gaming journalism. There's far too much editorialising and "Off topic" articles - I suspect half of the journalists are gunning for jobs in real papers or are jealous of real journalists and so keep trying to write articles about politics or protest. For me - this is a total turn off; when I want to read about current events or politics, I get a newspaper. In a PC magazine, all I want to read about is PCs and Gaming.

I think I first noticed the trend in a PC Gamer UK review of C&C Generals, which was critical of the game for apparently glorifying the War on Terror (although it was probably more that the reviewer was anti-Bush and the US military). Knocking the score down for that was ridiculous - and things these days have just got worse.
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is this a new "gamergate" thread?

if so, I hope this trash gets closed by the mods ;D
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DadJoke007: The most hilarious dynamic in this is the trickle-down-garbagenomics where Youtubers catch the breadcrumbs falling off the table so they can make money off it as well while pretending to be outraged. I bet they are outraged all the way to the bank alright.
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StingingVelvet: We're gonna replace manufacturing with an outrage economy. It'll be glorious.
Case in point:

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XYCat: is this a new "gamergate" thread?

if so, I hope this trash gets closed by the mods ;D
No, gamers aren't attacking journalists for the babble they spit daily, they are attacking them because they are corrupt. Only wo/manchildren feel "attacked" or "triggered" if a videogame, of all things, has something they don't like. And you don't really earn anything by defending journalists who, by the way, are thrashing your hobby and interests on a daily basis. Outrage from american associations (!) FORCED Capcom to reveal Poison as "newhalf" ( MTF trans, in japanese argot) because they threatened to sue and boycott (!!) the release of Final Fight, since violence against women is unacceptable (but violence against trans is, according to feminists, it seems). For everyone else in the world, Poison is a biological woman, but Capcom had to made last second changes to a game that already had all of its marketing products done. In the early 90s some "feminist woman" wrote a very angry letter to a computer gaming magazine complaining about the fact that almost every single female character is topless in Wizardry 6 (the only females that are actually clothed are the dark elves). The answer was rather in mock of her. Then we had the MK controversy. And then the Mass Effect controversy. And that time where the artist for the original art for Dvinity: Original Sin received threats, and Larian was again forced to change said art, which featured a female navel (!!!!!!), because of threats that the game would be boycotted and magazines wouldn't cover it since it's not acceptable to objectify women to the point of showing their navels, which indeed reminds me of tumblr's "female presenting nipples" bullcrap. And then there's many other controversies which all have a very strong point in common: these were made by people without true jobs, that have made controversy their livelihood, they live off bad publicity and slander. These are the kind of people that would sue the skies if it rains, because they got wet and tripped. We earn nothing of value by listening to these people.
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Speaking of games "journalism"... Checking RPS and PC Gamer this morning they threw up articles about BLM, which just got a giant "WTF?!?" out of me.

I have absolutely no problem as to what the BLM movement is trying to achieve, barring the exceptions of fringe fuckheads/vandals, but this has absolutely nothing to do with gaming. Keep that stuff to the real news sites.
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Women in games can't show navel? What is this....the 60s or 70s?

(I dream of Genie did the same thing, iirc)
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GameRager: Women in games can't show navel? What is this....the 60s or 70s?

(I dream of Genie did the same thing, iirc)
Comparison image: https://external-preview.redd.it/NsprTE_gCPnTjoZukVkaleTxK-qBxXDA1bNuid2BIiU.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=22fdb184dccae28207164d13579240380976546b

Apparently, that is so.