Oh. But it is.
Oh. But you didn't.

Text book ad hominem <--------------------------- That's an accurate use of a logical fallacy btw.

You need to back up what you say, if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise, you're just hurt that someone disagreed with you, in this terrible, terrible world.

If you can't quote examples, please stop slandering me and lying about me.

Proof?

Not worth it, as I said....you don't seem to want to debate or discuss honestly and fairly.

(Tbh the main reasons I keep replying is I have OCD[and am "addicted" to replying] and am somewhat curious to see what nonsense you might say next....else i'd likely get away from you and your likely craving for attention)

In that case, I hate to break it to you if you didn't know already, but EVERY COMMERCIAL GAME EVER was made through decisions to get money from people. EVERY commercial game is then pandering.

Who says I don't? I'm not the one boycotting entertainment goods to be edgy and/or further some political agenda.

Case in point. Piranha Bytes games. That's the Gothic series and the Risen series plus Elex.

When is the last time you saw a female protagonist in their games? Or someone from a minority (racial, gender, or sexual orientation or otherwise)?

You could forgive the old Gothic games - everyone was doing it at the time, and the majority of the audience was exactly what the main character was. But the newer games?

They got very little flak for this. Sure, there were some threads on the forums about someone wanting to play as a woman etc., but most honestly didn't care or understood it had very little bearing on the game. If anything, people sympathised that the devs/studio had limited funds to make an alternate main character with full voice acting and animations.

I was actually one of them - it didn't matter to me if the protagonist was a white straight male. The lack of customisation in some games was annoying, especially compared to similar TES games, but I understood that the Gothic PC was a story character in the end, and the others too in some way, so I left it at that.

I did NOT start boycotting a vidya game because of some imaginary political agenda shoved down my throat by the writers.

See how absurd that is??

You are correct somewhat.....ok then I correct what I said/stated: I meant certain types of pandering....as in pandering to marginalized groups for money and profit.

A dictionary:

slander noun
Definition of slander
1: the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation
2: a false and defamatory oral statement about a person

Case in point - you accused me of using strawmen with one example of such. The example was demonstrated to be false and a lie, yet you continued to 'falsely charge and misrepresent me to defame and damage' my reputation, without any evidence or proof. The same goes for saying that I lied, argued in bad faith, painted people in a wrongful and false light, and all the other ad hominem stuff you laid on me without proof.

So yes, slander. (or could be libel for written statements, and slander for oral? the definitions for libel seem to indicate a legal term? who cares, it's slander for now)

Says the guy smearing my name, without quoting what I actually said.

Yeah right.

How dare game companies target marginalised groups for their money?! It's outrageous! They should target ME!

Who here is doing that? Certainly not me....I just dislike them doing it for those reasons, in part because I feel it is taking advantage of people of said groups(for profit) & in some cases pushing an ideology they hold down the throats of the easily influenced( like children and teens).

Or(seriously asking) do you maybe think for some reason that pseudo brainwashing of kids and teens or taking money from such groups via appeal to their group is ok?

And depending on the title)how it's implemented and why) I don't mind if a woman/lgbt/etc either.

But you support people, who do. babark literally said that stories with "white male protagonist" are generic and unimaginative. And you agreed with him. It's people like him, who had a backlash against Jedi: Fallen Order because its protagonist was white and male.
Who cares? There are game series with exclusively female protagonists. There are companies that do exclusively LGBT and minority stuff. Why are YOU so angry that one specific company made games with white male protagonists?

Read my above latest reply to rojimboo(post 99).

Let me posit you this: If cigarette companies started trying to influence kids and teens to buy their stuff even more would you also be ok with it? Are you ok with what they already have done?

If not, then why are you seemingly ok with game companies preying in part on such groups for money and to sometimes influence their beliefs(in some cases)?

I don't understand your analogy at all. What in this situation is the cigarettes? Are these games harmful to the groups that are being targetted?

What beliefs are being influenced? That non-white people exist? That homosexual people exist?

What? What are you on about? Are you confusing me with someone else? Who brought up Jedi - Fallen Order?

Where did I say white straight male protagonists were 'generic and unimaginative'?

You've just gone full strawman on me.

@GameRager: ^ That's a real strawman, btw.

I agreed with the babark quote (that I explicitly quoted), nothing about 'generic and unimaginative' protagonists...??

Errr. Again. I'm not 'angry that one specific company made games with straight white male protagonists'. Never said that, or even remotely like that. In fact, in my example, I actually said the opposite.

Seriously, are you confusing me with someone else, or are you just wholly misunderstanding what I wrote? I mean, you clearly quoted me, but nothing that you said in reply is related to me or what I said...??

wtf man, i'm confuzzled

Anyways, this could either be a clear example of whataboutism, an attack as a defense, or just a gross misunderstanding based on gross miscommunication. Not sure which yet.

At least in the US cig companies got caught "pandering" to(marketing to) teens and kids....all to make a buck.

It is similar to this, where they pander to various groups to make a buck, and who plays games a lot? Kids and teens, and other easily influenced people.

Well the pndering is at least "harmful" financially, if some fall for it.

As for the messaging added in: if the people playing them are easily influenced then they could be susceptible to having their views changed, and it's even been stated by some dev team members that that was their intent(to shape and influence minds to their ideologies) & others have been suspected of such.

Everyone with a brain knows said people exist, and such media isn't needed to teach that.

That aside, it's mostly beliefs that one group good & the other bad(often based on what the devs believe and want to promote to others).

"No! It's clearly brainwashing! And it's detrimental to your health! Like cigarettes! Having diversity is bad for you, like smoking!!!"

I can't believe these thoughts are even being thought up - who uses an analogy like that about people?

Oh yeah. GameRager. That's who.

Ok then....now when will you reply to what I asked in post 99?

(About if you're ok with some of them making a quick buck off of marginalized groups and their supporters and etc....a reply to all things asked would be nice, as i'd like to know what your reply is to see where you stand on those things)