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Posted August 18, 2017
New Piñatas • New Deals • Last Chances


The final 72 hours of Piñata Madness are here, and the mystery-sale bonanza grows bigger – today brings exciting new Piñatas and hot new offers!

If you haven't tried your luck yet, now's the time with new additions to the pool. These include: Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition 1 & 2, SWAT 4, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, NEO Scavenger, Wasteland 2, This War of Mine.
Plus all things Homeworld with Homeworld 1 & 2 Remastered, Deserts of Kharak, as well as the long-gone expansion – Homeworld: Emergence.

If you're not the type to smash Piñatas, there are new great games on sale right now so make sure to give it a browse – and while you're here, check out the Carmageddon 20th Anniversary Sale at 75% off!


--Original announcement--
Piñata Madness is back – meaning excitement, mystery, and exceptional deals on some of our favorite hand-picked titles.




What is Piñata Madness?
For $3, you can buy and smash your own digital Piñata, each holding one of 100+ mystery games worth anywhere from $5.99 all the way up to $44.99.
Visit your <span class="bold">Pinata hub</span>, where can buy, open, and see everything Piñata Madness!
Just like real-life Piñatas, they'll bring you joy, surprise, and reward. Unlike real-life Piñatas, ours drop really good games instead of candy – games like Pillars of Eternity, Shadow Warrior 2, Heroes of Might and Magic, Victor Vran, and more!
It's a great way to broaden your horizons and try out games you otherwise wouldn't, knowing you're always getting a deal that's worth it. And if you already own every game included in our Piñatas, each game you drop will be a giftable code so you share the joy with your friends.







Weekly Megasale
If you'd rather know exactly you're getting, check out the Weekly Megasale featuring great deals up to -90% on some of our favorite titles including Darkest Dungeon, Shadowrun: Hong Kong, Heroes of Might and Magic III, and more!



The Piñata Madness and Weekly Megasale last until August 21, 2017, 9:59 PM UTC.
Posted August 21, 2017
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Onsdag: snip
This horse is being beaten to death, so this is the last post I'm going to make on this subject then it's time for us to move on to bigger and better things.

What is gog putting on the table? Gog is potentially selling you a higher valued game for just $3. Tyranny is ~$24 USD. Gog loses if you buy a pinata and receive Tyranny. Who do you think has to eat that difference in price? Can you find another website right now that is selling Tyranny for $3 USD? Is there possibly a good reason for that (because that site would lose money on the sales)? How does gog win in this case? They win because the potential of getting a game like Tyranny for $3 USD draws a ton of customers to buy the pinatas. The sheer volume of pinatas they are selling allows them to absorb the cost of such a loss when they do happen.

What is the consumer putting on the table? $3 USD. The consumer throws $3 USD on the table and hopes it will be a game he or she actually wants to spend money on. The consumer breaks even if the game returned is a game the consumer wants, and costs around $3 USD. The consumer wins if the game is a game they want that is valued higher than $3 USD. The consumer loses if the game they receive isn't a game they wanted and its value to them is $0 USD.

This whole discussion is basically moot anyway since people are claiming to be able to receive refunds for games they simply don't want out of the pinatas. And I'm not commenting one way or the other on that issue. That's between the consumer and gog.
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gizmomelb: well after the utter rubbish games from buying 5 pinatas previously, I thought ''one more time'' this morning and bought one - and received Shadow Warrior 2 - all is forgiven GOG as I have been wanting that game for a long time.
Grats! I've heard good things about that game.
Post edited August 21, 2017 by Qwertyman
Posted August 21, 2017
Well, I bought three so far... and got A Golden Wake (point and click game I hadn't heard of before, but, then again, lots of early 2010 games I hadn't heard of for various reason), Imperium Galactica II, and Little Big Adventure: Twinsen's Odyssey. Actually remember playing the demo version of this way back when it first came out and it seemed rather fun. Don't know much about IG, but do like strategy games, so I'll have to check it out.

REALLY would like to grab some more, but, in truth, I've already spent too much...
Posted August 21, 2017
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OHMYGODJCABOMB: Why the discount for Bombshell is no longer available? Is it was on sale separately from Pinata Madness?
It's one of the games which has been removed from the regular sale because of the complaints about low priced piñatas.
Posted August 21, 2017
So I wrote to support late yesterday about the duplicates I got during this whole thing. Usually when you write to support you get an automated email with a copy of what you wrote, but this time I didn't get that. Is that normal?

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The message is not in the Spam folder.
Post edited August 21, 2017 by Kristian
Posted August 21, 2017
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Kristian: So I wrote to support late yesterday about the duplicates I got during this whole thing. Usually when you write to support you get an automated email with a copy of what you wrote, but this time I didn't get that. Is that normal?

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The message is not in the Spam folder.
They're probably busy from being flooded with E-mails by people who abused the system and are looking for refunds when they gambled and lost.
Posted August 21, 2017
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Totenglocke: ...but suddenly introducing gambling to the site seems like a pretty massive change and I know I definitely didn't receive a survey asking for my opinion on it.
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PaterAlf: You realise that it was at least the fourth sale with mystery games? They had another Pinata sale a year ago and before that an "Luck of the Irish" sale and another one I'm not sure about the nam, think it was Mutabor or something similar).

And it's not a big change. They do it one time a year. If you don't like it, buy your games in promos and sales the othe 51 weeks of the year.
I've never once seen them and I'm on GOG all the time looking for new deals. The money grubbing shit should stay on Steam.
Posted August 21, 2017
I'm just commenting because we're at 665 comments and I wanted to make it an even 666 because apparently I am 16.
Posted August 21, 2017
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Kristian: So I wrote to support late yesterday about the duplicates I got during this whole thing. Usually when you write to support you get an automated email with a copy of what you wrote, but this time I didn't get that. Is that normal?

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The message is not in the Spam folder.
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DoomSooth: They're probably busy from being flooded with E-mails by people who abused the system and are looking for refunds when they gambled and lost.
That is what I thought too, but aren't those emails automated?
Post edited August 21, 2017 by Kristian
Posted August 21, 2017
I defiantly spent more money with this sale then I would of with a normal sale. I think that is the point of this sale I am sure GOG has the data.
Posted August 21, 2017
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GOG.com: snip
Could you please let one choose an OS next time?
As a Linux user (and probably same for mac), they are very uninteresting atm since you never know whether it runs or not.

If I could set it to "only Linux ports", I'd have bought a bunch.
Posted August 21, 2017
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PromZA: No it isn't. Gambling isn't just gambling in certain people's situations but either in everyone's situation or in nobody's. You're changing the definition because you think it should pertain to you in which case we can all just start changing definitions willy nilly. If this is your definition of gambling then so is purchasing a game you haven't played yet as you may end up not wanting it. Refunds are a non-issue as you won't get a refund in that instance anyway.

Yes this isn't really that difficult.
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Qwertyman: I can't believe you're struggling so hard to understand something so simple. You seem like you speak very good English (much better than I can speak Russian!), so I can't imagine it's a language barrier issue.
No there's no struggling. Gambling is when there's a wager and the other party either takes your money or you take what they are offering based on some chance event. Neither of those are an option here and GoG gets your money while you take their product regardless of any outcome. The only other option is you withdrawing from the contract but I doubt you could be referring to that as gambling as you can do that with a regular purchase as well. You're probably seeing the mystery part as gambling but that's absurd as it would make lucky packets gambling as well. I know you are able to understand that. Whether you actually like what you get or not is irrelevant. This neither fits the legal or the technical definition of gambling.

And I'm actually South African. Maybe I should update it to reflect where I'm actually from. Don't really know how these things work.

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Qwertyman: This horse is being beaten to death, so this is the last post I'm going to make on this subject then it's time for us to move on to bigger and better things.

What is gog putting on the table? Gog is potentially selling you a higher valued game for just $3. Tyranny is ~$24 USD. Gog loses if you buy a pinata and receive Tyranny. Who do you think has to eat that difference in price? Can you find another website right now that is selling Tyranny for $3 USD? Is there possibly a good reason for that (because that site would lose money on the sales)? How does gog win in this case? They win because the potential of getting a game like Tyranny for $3 USD draws a ton of customers to buy the pinatas. The sheer volume of pinatas they are selling allows them to absorb the cost of such a loss when they do happen.

What is the consumer putting on the table? $3 USD. The consumer throws $3 USD on the table and hopes it will be a game he or she actually wants to spend money on. The consumer breaks even if the game returned is a game the consumer wants, and costs around $3 USD. The consumer wins if the game is a game they want that is valued higher than $3 USD. The consumer loses if the game they receive isn't a game they wanted and its value to them is $0 USD.

This whole discussion is basically moot anyway since people are claiming to be able to receive refunds for games they simply don't want out of the pinatas. And I'm not commenting one way or the other on that issue. That's between the consumer and gog.
But GoG keeps your money regardless of the outcome and you keep the product, that's if you don't withdraw from the contract but that would be a conscious decision and not the outcome of a wager. There is no scenario here where GoG takes your money and keeps the product or you take the product but keep your money much less one where it is based on chance. Sorry but however you want to spin it there's no gambling involved here. You are applying your own criteria here but that doesn't change whether the pinata sale is gambling or not.

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OHMYGODJCABOMB: Why the discount for Bombshell is no longer available? Is it was on sale separately from Pinata Madness?
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eiii: It's one of the games which has been removed from the regular sale because of the complaints about low priced piñatas.
And that's the nonsensical part. Why remove a game from the sale and break the publisher agreement to artificially raise the CURRENT price instead of removing it from the pinatas?
Posted August 21, 2017
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Totenglocke: ...but suddenly introducing gambling to the site seems like a pretty massive change and I know I definitely didn't receive a survey asking for my opinion on it.
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PaterAlf: You realise that it was at least the fourth sale with mystery games? They had another Pinata sale a year ago and before that an "Luck of the Irish" sale and another one I'm not sure about the nam, think it was Mutabor or something similar).

And it's not a big change. They do it one time a year. If you don't like it, buy your games in promos and sales the othe 51 weeks of the year.
Haven't seen them since being here. Mystery sale could have been early last year but the first and only other pinata sale was in 2015 from reports. In any case did my second and final round and got in order:
SWAT 4 Gold Edition
Blackguards Special Edition
Hostile Waters: Antaeus Rising
Eador Imperium
Soldiers: Heroes of World War II
Funny none of the games except Blackguards are on my wishlist and I do have over 700 titles there. But all in all not a bad haul I guess. Only game I would never have bought is political animals.

EDIT: Seems to work better when you buy them a few hours apart.
EDIT 2: Oh, and I want Kyn Deluxe Edition but seems there's no upgrade yet.
Post edited August 21, 2017 by PromZA
Posted August 21, 2017
I'm pretty disappointed with some of the games I got. 1 game from 1999 that doesn't even run and another game from 1998 that's been "enhanced." Most of these games are about 3 stars or less, so pretty terrible honestly. I'm installing the other games now. I hope they bloody work at least.
Posted August 21, 2017
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Klumpen0815: Could you please let one choose an OS next time?
As a Linux user (and probably same for mac), they are very uninteresting atm since you never know whether it runs or not.

If I could set it to "only Linux ports", I'd have bought a bunch.
Had there been an option to get Linux games only, I would have bought piñatas until I got all of them ;)
Posted August 21, 2017
This is 100% gambelling. I don't know what the hell you're going on about.

You're putting a set amount of money (for me it's $4). And then you roll the dice to get something back (in this case you could either get a shitty overpriced game, very likely, or a good high priced game, unlikely).

Compare this to slot machines, you put in a set amount ($1). And then you roll the dice to see if you get money back. Just like this you're far more likely to get shit. For example, the 1999 game that doesn't run that I mentioned, wanna know how much it costs? $8... $8 dollars for a game that's 18 years old. The people who were born when that game was made are now old enough to drink, etc etc.

If you think that GoG isn't making money on this you're delusional. They've thrown in a bunch of games that no-one in their right mind would buy, either because they're shit or because they're ridiciously over price, and then add a couple of good ones to entice you into buying them. I'm pretty sure they also throw in a pitty timer so people don't get too pissed when they get absolute garbage 10 times in a row.
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