I don't, I just shitpost in every sense of the word.

Oh right, this thread was about Covid-19. How the F did we end up with poo and crappy currencies?

As I said on the OP I was aware that this is not the right forum, however this is intended as a social and informative thread, not as a political one, and I truly hope it's not going to end in a flamewar like you say.

I dunno, but I DO hope you two keep it brief and we get back on track lest the nice kind staff give us the gift of "going offtopic locking". ;)
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More ontopic:

In my own country a man went to an event(dunno what kind) even while he knew he was very likely to be infected....now they have to track ALL attendees of said event and check them as well....some people have no common sense, lemme tell ya.

It's about everyone buying up loads of toilet paper!

As I said in the OP, the problem is not the effect of the virus on the single person, but its effects on the community: it's not the right time to give any percentage, but it's a fact that we are having an unusual amount of pneumonia cases and they are increasing at a dramatic rate. This might bring the healthcare system to fail: intensive care is needed for a lot of diseases, not only for the pneumonia induced by the COVID-19!

Maybe they have, just don't care about others. Many people want to see others suffer just to feel themselves a little better.
If others suffer my suffering isn't that huge problem or at least not my fault, thinking.
Yeah the economic consequences are the major threat , even with full infection 2% dead mainly very old people isn't catastrophic, but closing shops and production and decrease in consume is.

Thanks for the concern: I do not live in a quarantined region... for now. :-)

I'm not an expert, but I would say it's not true.
Aside for the first case which was surely an unintentional error, the outbreak is not due to people going to the hospital, but because of normal social interactions. Every hospital in the whole country has now a pre-triage location, where people is tested before being allowed to enter the building. So, no, the outbreak has not definitely been caused by an insufficient number of doctors.

That said, it is true that italian population is old on average and this could have an impact on the number of pneumonia cases generated by the virus. It's not easy to say if it is a critical point, though: even younger people could need intensive care treatments and, by the way, the whole european population has an average age not so different from the italian one. I suggest you to read this article for further information.

The problem with going to hospitals(if one isn't infected)...at least in the US....is that it's much more likely one will get it/many sicknesses in hospitals rather than other places.

Over here they usually let all incoming cases(in normal times and not such outbreaks) mix together unless they KNOW someone has a majorly infectious illness.

What you're describing being miffed about is essentially the whole point of a quarantine. You can debate the level of threat that should be required to justify a quarantine, but saying you don't like people being told where they can and can't go with no advance notice is just saying you don't like a quarantine, and frankly you disliking the idea of a quarantine doesn't make it any less an important tool in controlling the spread of disease.

more than anything, i've been wondering what the undocumented infection rate might look like (in any given country) as most people don't go to the doctor/hospital when they're sick, they just muscle it out.

Hard to say: this is somehow left to common sense, meaning that you can interact with others but only for a short time, avoiding the risk of a prolonged and continuous interaction.
Measures such as enlarging distances between tables in restaurants, for instance, or allowing few people at the counter in coffee bar could be helpful in the fight against the outbreak.

Yeah I've wondered the same thing. Especially given the fact that for most people the symptoms don't present as much more than a bad flu. I had a bad flu last week and I didn't go to the hospital. The confirmed cases initially would be from people who suffer the worst of the symptoms and go to the hospital.... most healthcare professionals talking about this have been saying to expect a huge spike in confirmed cases cause the media attention will prompt people to start getting tested who wouldn't have before, and not because the transmission rate is increasing.

That is the question, and also, how does that affect death ratio in relation to the number of people who contract the disease? Tons of hidden variables we know nothing about that might change the perception of Covid-19 completely.

Regarding muscling it out, it made me think of this masterpiece.

Sometimes, people need someone to tell them what to do. Sometimes for the benefit of the majority, some people must be restrained. This is not martial law ,yet. But it is a situation where it could easily be warranted.

Considering there are possibly many many more cases no one knows about, I imagine the mortality rate shinks a bit. But in this time of heightened awareness, people will go to the doctor to get tested who normally wouldn't as well. So I think there are fewer undocumented cases of Covid-19 than we'd see with the run of the mill flu.