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Hello everyone :)
I need help with choose a new laptop.
Here are my desires:
1) IPS display
2) nice speakers
3) no more than 15 inches

Games that I play: Gothic; Morrowind; Baldurs Gate; Icewind Dale....many old rpg games and some new example Divinity OS; Pilars of Eternity....

How do I know laptops with the OS Win 8 and higher resolution 1080p or 2k it will be bad for me because in Windows 8 poor scaling or?

Maybe new Macbook pro 13 inch with new graphic card Intel Iris 6100 will be nice?

Please help me with the choice :)
This question / problem has been solved by DeMignonimage
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Morddraig: ...Please help me with the choice :)
If you want a laptop for old games, stay away from Apple and also make sure it has got a graphics processor other than an Intel HD chip. Avoiding these two factors means avoiding a lot of problems with games. Further get a system with Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 if possible. Win7 is currently the better platform for older games.
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Morddraig: ...Please help me with the choice :)
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DeMignon: If you want a laptop for old games, stay away from Apple and also make sure it has got a graphics processor other than an Intel HD chip. Avoiding these two factors means avoiding a lot of problems with games. Further get a system with Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 if possible. Win7 is currently the better platform for older games.
Ditto. I think he covered it!
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DeMignon: If you want a laptop for old games, stay away from Apple and also make sure it has got a graphics processor other than an Intel HD chip. Avoiding these two factors means avoiding a lot of problems with games. Further get a system with Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 if possible. Win7 is currently the better platform for older games.
DeMignon has great advice, it will really minimize any issues you may have. In my experience and reading about potential issues you may also be better off with nVidia over AMD when it comes to mobile hardware.

Some old games are still very picky on modern laptop hardware no matter what, so don't expect everything to work perfectly.
I think I can play with intel video card. For more powerful games I have a good PC.
And what if I will install on MacBook - OS Windows 7 ?
I want to buy a new laptop. Thin with a good display.
But all the new laptop on the Windows 8.....
For example I see: new macboock pro vs Dell IPS 13 vs zenbook's
I realy want ultrabook
What will happen to the game having a low resolution with 13 inch screen which were originally designed for higher resolution?
A decent used unit will do the trick. Depending on the genres you play and what you consider 'old', a discrete GPU may be unnecessary. IPS limits the choices, though.
I got some old used business laptops from a relative's business. They are awesome. 4:3 native resolutions are the way to go if you can do it.

I've got BG2, Myth TFL and Quest for Glory on it now and they all shine beautifully.
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Morddraig: I think I can play with intel video card. For more powerful games I have a good PC.
It's not about power, but compatibility. Some games don't work well on integrated Intel GPUs.
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Morddraig: And what if I will install on MacBook - OS Windows 7 ?
Bad idea. Laptop hardware often demands special drivers from its manufacturer and you might get problems finding well maintained Windows 7 drivers.
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Morddraig: But all the new laptop on the Windows 8...
You'll have to search for offers with Windows 7. There are still some available, but not for every model. You could install it yourself, but I'd only do this if you really have problems with Windows 8. If Win 8 then take Windows 8.1 if possible.
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Morddraig: I realy want ultrabook
What will happen to the game having a low resolution with 13 inch screen which were originally designed for higher resolution?
They're simply not the best laptops for older games. Don't worry too much about resolution. All these laptops provide at least 1366x768 which is enough for all old games and most of the older games. If a game demands a higher resolution, chances are high your graphics card isn't strong enough anyway.
Ask yourself for what you really need your notebook and then decide. If gaming on a portable device is really important to you, maybe take a look on the Asus UX303LN. Fine battery life, very silent in most cases, options to upgrade and a very good display depending on your area. If you can get the version with the full hd display (it's matt and IPS) in your country it's maybe the best fit for gaming on an unltrabook. Avoid the QHD display (that with a touchscreen), as there are colour issues with it (dark yellow) and windows 8 has a scaling problem. Maybe windows 10 will improve scaling in the future, but right now support for high resolution on windows is still in a transition period.

About gaming on a macbook pro 13 retina - the intel iris can handle modern games adequate at low resolutions (for me still enjoyable), but at a high price - noise. The fans kick in very quickly if the gpu needs to handle modern graphics. You can really feel how hot the case will get in some areas. I'm not talking about normal fan noise at some heaver cpu-load, that's acceptable on a macbook, I'm really talking on the maximum fan speed. Also Apple don't care about gaming, which means there are no driver updates very often. So if you plan to play Divinity or Pilars of the Eternety on the macbook pro it's very likely possible, but from my experience with newer games not really enjoyable. Older games are not a problem, I played Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition on an absolutely silent system (no fan noise) ;-) In Grim Fandango I disabled the modern graphics upgrades and also got a silent system). For other games you can install windows 7 in bootcamp, try to use in wine/crossover/wine or directly ready-to-go ports (check paulthetall.com). So there are ways to play on a mac, but it's really not that the mac shines here. If you want a very good ultrabook for work on the road and play on it from time to time, maybe yes. Otherwise go with a good windows notebook.
Post edited March 13, 2015 by DukeNukemForever
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Morddraig: I think I can play with intel video card. For more powerful games I have a good PC.
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DeMignon: It's not about power, but compatibility. Some games don't work well on integrated Intel GPUs.
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Morddraig: And what if I will install on MacBook - OS Windows 7 ?
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DeMignon: Bad idea. Laptop hardware often demands special drivers from its manufacturer and you might get problems finding well maintained Windows 7 drivers.
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Morddraig: But all the new laptop on the Windows 8...
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DeMignon: You'll have to search for offers with Windows 7. There are still some available, but not for every model. You could install it yourself, but I'd only do this if you really have problems with Windows 8. If Win 8 then take Windows 8.1 if possible.
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Morddraig: I realy want ultrabook
What will happen to the game having a low resolution with 13 inch screen which were originally designed for higher resolution?
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DeMignon: They're simply not the best laptops for older games. Don't worry too much about resolution. All these laptops provide at least 1366x768 which is enough for all old games and most of the older games. If a game demands a higher resolution, chances are high your graphics card isn't strong enough anyway.
Thanks for help :)
I appreciate your advice
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DukeNukemForever: Ask yourself for what you really need your notebook and then decide. If gaming on a portable device is really important to you, maybe take a look on the Asus UX303LN. Fine battery life, very silent in most cases, options to upgrade and a very good display depending on your area. If you can get the version with the full hd display (it's matt and IPS) in your country it's maybe the best fit for gaming on an unltrabook. Avoid the QHD display (that with a touchscreen), as there are colour issues with it (dark yellow) and windows 8 has a scaling problem. Maybe windows 10 will improve scaling in the future, but right now support for high resolution on windows is still in a transition period.

About gaming on a macbook pro 13 retina - the intel iris can handle modern games adequate at low resolutions (for me still enjoyable), but at a high price - noise. The fans kick in very quickly if the gpu needs to handle modern graphics. You can really feel how hot the case will get in some areas. I'm not talking about the normal load fan noise, that's acceptable on a macbook, I'm really talking on the maximum fan speed. Also Apple don't care about gaming, which means there are no driver updates very often. So if you plan to play Divinity or Pilars of the Eternety on the macbook pro it's very likely possible, but from my experience with newer games not really enjoyable. Older games are not a problem, I played Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition on a complete silent system ;-) In Grim Fandango I disabled the modern graphics upgrades and also got a silent system). For other games you can install windows 7 in bootcamp, try to use in wine/crossover/wine or directly ready-to-go ports (check paulthetall.com). So there are ways to play on a mac, but it's really not that the mac shines here. If you want a very good ultrabook for work on the road and play on it from time to time, maybe yes. Otherwise go with a good windows notebook.
Thanks for the reply. That's what I wanted to hear! :)
Post edited March 13, 2015 by Morddraig
Some "Windows 8 only" laptops also work with Windows 7 after a bit of fussing. I have a G751JY and Windows 7 Ultimate runs perfectly.
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DeMignon: If you want a laptop for old games, stay away from Apple and also make sure it has got a graphics processor other than an Intel HD chip.
What problems does the Intel HD chip cause, e.g. in which GOG games? Genuinely asking, as so far the compatibility has been quite good. In fact I don't recall which GOG game would have specifically failed. E.g. yesterday I installed Deus Ex and Unreal, both appear to run great with Intel HD. Is it e.g. OpenGL games that would cause issues?

I've also seen compatibility problems with e.g. Geforce chipsets on laptops, e.g. sometimes new NVidia drivers have broken backwards compatibility with some old (GOG) games, Naturally all newer chipsets seem to have issues with e.g. the Z-buffer implementation on some old Direct3D games, I presume Intel HD isn't an exception (e.g. Heavy Gear 2). Not sure if GOG has any such games, most probably not.

That reminds me, I don't recall if I've tested Gorky 17 and Dungeon Keeper 2 on this laptop. I recall they used to cause problems generally on many new graphics chipsets, albeit DK2 got fixed at some point. Bloodrayne 2 might be one such game too. If Intel HD graphics passes those games, then I consider it quite good for old games.

For newer games though, Intel HD graphics generally lack power compared to most Nvidia and AMD mobile offerings.
Post edited March 13, 2015 by timppu
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DeMignon: If you want a laptop for old games, stay away from Apple and also make sure it has got a graphics processor other than an Intel HD chip.
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timppu: What problems does the Intel HD chip cause, e.g. in which GOG games? ....
Just a few random examples, the list goes on. Check the minimum requirements.
http://www.gog.com/game/deus_ex_invisible_war
http://www.gog.com/game/empire_earth_gold_edition
http://www.gog.com/game/fez
http://www.gog.com/game/uru_complete_chronicles
http://www.gog.com/game/evil_genius
http://www.gog.com/game/police_quest_swat_1_2
http://www.gog.com/game/sacred_gold
...

Also there are further games having troubles, where GOG refrained from adding a general incompatibility notice (e.g. UFO:Afterlight).
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DeMignon: ...
Good to know, I'll check some of those just to see what kind of problems. I wonder if they are problems that should be visible right away...

I just tried the four games I mentioned. Dungeon Keeper 2 and BloodRayne 1-2 had no issues whatsoever (then again the earlier issues I remembered from BloodRayne 2 were probably related to the FMV parts in Windows 8...).

In Gorky 17 (3D accelerated), the menu looked funky but was readable. The game itself looked and played fine, but there were occasionally some small graphical glitches during combat, which didn't affect the game. So it wasn't perfect, but pretty good and fully playable.

I tried Gorky 17 also on my NVidia Geforce 670M powered laptop, and there it worked much worse. The characters were invisible when they were on the boat in the beginning, and when they were supposed to start speaking, the game jammed, and jammed the whole computer (Ctrl-Alt-Del or Alt-Del didn't work, I had to power the whole PC down from the power button).
seriously guys. why are you even recommending win7? most retro games were designed for single-core processors. that means windows XP and pentium 4 (or PIII processors). but good luck finding them anymore. check out ebay or craiglist? would be a lot easier to custom build a PC tower for old games.

this thread on VOGONs might be useful.
http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=37131&sid=e1003f55211bc91eb6c40c24417a71de

unfortunately laptop gaming wasn't really a thing back in the 90s. no good 3D cards on them, and AFAIK many of them used Soundblaster clones/chips that are incompatible with some games especially DOS games.

EDIT : sorry for necroposting. misread March as May.
Post edited June 25, 2015 by dick1982