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It says:
"Not like it changes anything, but we are obligated to inform you that we are using cookies - well, we just did."

There's nothing wrong with informing the user that a site uses cookies. Also regardless of the "obligation" or the laws of each country it's the responsablility of any webmaster to inform users about things like the use of cookies.

The message sounds weird, like some teenager with a bad attitude that was asked by a parent to clean his room and he shoved everything in the closet saying "there! it's clean. Are you happy now?!"

Why not just put "This site uses cookies. Learn more."? Or something else less "edgy" or douchebaggy.
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grimlock047: It says:
"Not like it changes anything, but we are obligated to inform you that we are using cookies - well, we just did."

There's nothing wrong with informing the user that a site uses cookies. Also regardless of the "obligation" or the laws of each country it's the responsablility of any webmaster to inform users about things like the use of cookies.

The message sounds weird, like some teenager with a bad attitude that was asked by a parent to clean his room and he shoved everything in the closet saying "there! it's clean. Are you happy now?!"

Why not just put "This site uses cookies. Learn more."? Or something else less "edgy" or douchebaggy.
That’s just the way they are. Look at the FCKDRM website, it’s not exactly professional just upper casing and removing vowels. That being said, all these websites now have that annoying cookies banner. Rather than actually do something about the rampant abuse of users data over decades, they all do the minimum they can legally get away with, and then continue to mass extract user data for commerce whilst avoiding paying tax.
No offense, but being offended and starting a thread about this absolute non-issue seems a bit... excessive?
A prime-example of making a mountain out of a molehill and assuming ill intent/mischievousness where there clearly is none. Edgyness nor douchebaggery either.

It's just a somewhat "juvenile" worded message, no more, no less.
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Swedrami: No offense, but being offended and starting a thread about this absolute non-issue seems a bit... excessive?
A prime-example of making a mountain out of a molehill and assuming ill intent/mischievousness where there clearly is none. Edgyness nor douchebaggery either.

It's just a somewhat "juvenile" worded message, no more, no less.
why is it excessive to make an observation about something?

It looks that you were more "offended" by a "general" comment in some "general" forums more than I was by whatever supposedly offended me.

I really don't see what's wrong with me pointing out that that is an embarrasing and juvenile (as you mention) way of just saying that the website obviously uses cookies. Or am I guilty of corporate shaming and owe the intern that wrote that and the whole gamer community an apology? #corporateshaming
It's the GoG corporate culture - simple as.

I actually like a company that tries to show some personality and isn't afraid to have a joke, but then again, I'm pretty old fashioned and know that isn't the way the world is going...
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Swedrami: No offense, but being offended and starting a thread about this absolute non-issue seems a bit... excessive?
A prime-example of making a mountain out of a molehill and assuming ill intent/mischievousness where there clearly is none. Edgyness nor douchebaggery either.

It's just a somewhat "juvenile" worded message, no more, no less.
Why isn't there an opt out like other websites or a confirmation box that needs ticked before allowing this stuff?
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grimlock047: Why not just put "This site uses cookies. Learn more."? Or something else less "edgy" or douchebaggy.
Pffft, that's nothing. For instance varusteleka.fi has this:

https://www.varusteleka.fi/fi/page/ohjeet-ja-ehdot/21978#evasteet

I'll google translate their message:

Varustelekka's website, like almost all other websites, uses cookies. Cookies in themselves are about as old an invention as websites, and their use today is no more cruel than before, they have to be muttered now for some reason, when the gang is surprised that the behavior of internet users is monitored. Cookies are small files made by Varusteleka's websites that remain on your computer and the content of which is displayed on your Varusteleka website by your web browser whenever you browse our website. Cookies let the user know what - what information you open on our website and in what order, what browser you use, what your screen resolution is, what IP address you have at any given time. In certain cases, it may be possible for us to use cookies to obtain information from other websites you visit. Still, this is not a special feature of Varusteleka, but the same applies to virtually all websites.

Thanks to cookies, your shopping cart stays there. Thanks to cookies, we also get hell-accurate information about what and how users do on our website. This means that a register is collected from each visitor, which practically records very accurately what the user does - which page they arrive at, where they go from there, how long they stay on the website, buy something, do what if they come again later, then buy something. We use this information to file websites in such a direction that as many people as possible would find something nice to buy as easily as possible. We have so many gangs that even small changes make surprisingly many more customers. This is a smart activity, and all knowledgeable online stores with enough people on their pages do so.

Varusteleka collects cookies anonymously, and although a very accurate register is collected from your browsing, orders are logged in a completely different register and the data is not combined in any way. So all we know is that "one user came through the front page to the list of novelties, chose a Bulgarian vomit bucket from there, bought it and came a week later to buy another similar one." We do not know that out of the forty buyers of the vomiting bucket, this user was just Matti Hyvinkää. Nothing in itself would prevent us from merging these two registers, except that we are now deriving no benefit from it. And even if we secretly do so, you would never know - there is no place for it on the internet now. Fortunately, the equipment is on the side of the good and will do you no harm.

If you think that cookies are somehow a danger to you and you want to be the world's biggest web wizard, you can very easily turn off the use of cookies, Senkus will go to your web browser settings. Kantsii remembers that the feeling of security that follows from this is very apparent, yes you can watch online quite easily without them. Varustelekka's website is not intended for use without cookies, and it may be impossible to place an order, for example, if cookies are switched off. Not to be tried, and not to be able to try, because kamoon - not oo new or scary thing about these cookies at all. If you really imagine that sua is being tracked, you should place your orders by handing a typewriter-ordered order letter in the mail with cash and asking for delivery to Poste restante as far away as possible. Smartmail should not be used because it describes every user.

And that monitoring and data collection does not end in cookies, but that data is accumulated in databases by other means as well. For example, all the information you give us when ordering is stored, and for good reason. So please do not enter your order in the additional information field about your bedroom hobbies, illnesses or other sensitive matters. We don't want to know. Really, don't.

You can read more about Varustelekka's data processing issues in our Privacy Statement, which reviews what information we collect, how and why. It’s a bit drier text than this, but still an important thing.

In the next section, we will explain the effect of your face on the amount of the fine.
EDIT: Ok they have a shorter English version too:

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/page/terms-and-conditions/21978#cakes
Post edited May 05, 2020 by timppu
I like it, though I would be happier without all the cookies, and I really like FCKDRM.com
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Spectre: Why isn't there an opt out like other websites or a confirmation box that needs ticked before allowing this stuff?
There is an opt-out button! That X in the upper right corner.

I don't think the store nor logging into this forum would work that well without cookies (ie. if you opted out of cookies used on the site), but I guess you could still peruse the pages and forums as a visitor.
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grimlock047: Why not just put "This site uses cookies. Learn more."? Or something else less "edgy" or douchebaggy.
I understand your point and I semi-agree with it.

But where I don't agree with it is: were GOG to follow the advice you are giving, then we customers wouldn't know that they feel entitled to infest their customers' machines with cookies malware.

Thus, better to keep the rude statement intact as it is now, so customers always know exactly how they feel.
Post edited May 05, 2020 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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Spectre: Why isn't there an opt out like other websites or a confirmation box that needs ticked before allowing this stuff?
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timppu: There is an opt-out button! That X in the upper right corner.

I don't think the store nor logging into this forum would work that well without cookies (ie. if you opted out of cookies used on the site), but I guess you could still peruse the pages and forums as a visitor.
Exactly. Without cookies each user would have to enter their user name and password every single time they wanted to do something like buying a game and many features on this or any website would simply not work.

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grimlock047: Why not just put "This site uses cookies. Learn more."? Or something else less "edgy" or douchebaggy.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I understand your point and I semi-agree with it.

But where I don't agree with it is: were GOG to follow the advice you are giving, then we customers wouldn't know that they feel entitled to infest their customers' machines with cookies malware.

Thus, better to keep the rude statement intact as it is now, so customers always know exactly how they feel.
Then that's precisely a terrible consequence of that message. They not only want to sound edgy with a "stick it to the man" attitude but they are giving the completely wrong message to some peoples that a basic feature of the WWW that is indispensable for this and many websites is "evil".

They make the word cookie sound dirty because when most users think of cookies they don't think of the ones used for keeping you logged-in but instead they think of the "tracking" cookies used to learn about you and your habits every time you visit google, youtube, discord, twitch or any other social media site; almost any stores such as amazon; and essentially every website you visit that has an advertisement from google or any other ad network in it.
Transparency.

An improvement would be to list what is recorded, as pointed out by @timppu:
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timppu: […]
For instance varusteleka.fi has this:

https://www.varusteleka.fi/fi/page/ohjeet-ja-ehdot/21978#evasteet

[… W]hat information you open on our website and in what order, what browser you use, what your screen resolution is, what IP address you have at any given time. In certain cases, it may be possible for us to use cookies to obtain information from other websites you visit. […]
Data can be compiled anonymously, and it can be aggregated to further prevent reverse-lookup privacy assault. (In other words, delete the individuals' data once it has been aggregated.)

Offering to give something to each user in (part-) payment of their data would be a good start on the journey to appreciating the customers' contribution.
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grimlock047: Why not just put "This site uses cookies. Learn more."? Or something else less "edgy" or douchebaggy.
because they didnt
do you get angry ovah wut cereal to eat in teh mornin'?
The cookie law would have been a good idea twenty or more years ago. It was silly to add it at such a late point. They cuold change it already that a website has to inform somewhere what kind of cookies they use and such but that silly banner could go to bluer pastures (blue?! yes, like in bsod). Everyone has seen them by now.
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timppu: There is an opt-out button! That X in the upper right corner.

I don't think the store nor logging into this forum would work that well without cookies (ie. if you opted out of cookies used on the site), but I guess you could still peruse the pages and forums as a visitor.
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grimlock047: Exactly. Without cookies each user would have to enter their user name and password every single time they wanted to do something like buying a game and many features on this or any website would simply not work.
Cookies aren't limited to logins as you know and other websites let you selectively block cookies including the worse ones you have listed.

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grimlock047: They make the word cookie sound dirty because when most users think of cookies they don't think of the ones used for keeping you logged-in but instead they think of the "tracking" cookies used to learn about you and your habits every time you visit google, youtube, discord, twitch or any other social media site; almost any stores such as amazon; and essentially every website you visit that has an advertisement from google or any other ad network in it.
That sounds pretty dirty having 3rd parties plant these here to spy on users across the internet and potentially illegal.