Posted November 15, 2015
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Crosmando
chrono commando
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From Australia
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Epitaph666
<3 Carma TDR
Registered: Mar 2012
From Greece
Posted November 15, 2015
See guys? That's why we have to destroy the illuminati. Now they manipulate the SS2 GOG reviews.
Can't Obama do something?
Can't Obama do something?
Post edited November 15, 2015 by Epitaph666
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MaximumBunny
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Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted November 15, 2015
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odinfan
うぐぅ!
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted November 15, 2015
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I find TLOU overrated garbage because it is linear and simply a rehash of the TWD story. But you can't fault me for that, because I simply don't play mainstream games that often (Deus Ex or SS2, despite what people say ISN'T mainstream).
Post edited November 15, 2015 by odinfan
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P1na
Wandering fruit
Registered: Apr 2012
From Spain
Posted November 15, 2015
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For the record, I think Deus Ex (the original) is a pretty terrible FPS too. It's impossible to play it as wolfenstein or doom, have you ever tried hitting something with the pistol while moving?
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MaximumBunny
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Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted November 15, 2015
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I find TLOU overrated garbage because it is linear and simply a rehash of the TWD story. But you can't fault me for that, because I simply don't play mainstream games that often (Deus Ex or SS2, despite what people say ISN'T mainstream).
I didn't say anyone was wrong to dislike popular games. I hate Borderlands and Dungeon Defenders. It doesn't mean they're bad though. People have a misconception that if you don't like a game then it's a bad game. I think the aforementioned are solid titles in terms of performance and for the time. They just suck in my opinion.
My view is an example of objectivity because I'm able to separate my personal experience with the quality of a game and other people's experiences. I wouldn't recommend the games but if you like them then great for you.
People need to learn the difference between all of these things so they don't get unnecessarily defensive/offensive.
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Deadpan Snarker
Registered: Jun 2012
From Germany
Posted November 15, 2015
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CharlesGrey
Original Grey
Registered: Sep 2013
From Germany
Posted November 15, 2015
No.
Just... No.
Just... No.
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Bad Hair Day
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted November 15, 2015
I hated SS2. Would it make you feel better if I posted a review? :D
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paladin181
Cheese
Registered: Nov 2012
From United States
Posted November 15, 2015
high rated
ITT: Person complains about reviews being manipulated when he can't manipulate reviews to his tastes. Got it.
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timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted November 15, 2015
I also wasn't quite happy with System Shock 2, it had several problems, lessening my enjoyment for it. I actually like the first System Shock much more, at least with the updated controls (System Shock Enhanced).
However, I don't get OP's gung-ho approach to it, like voting down any reviews that liked SS2. So you didn't like the game which many others like, cool. Just leave it to that, like I did.
However, I don't get OP's gung-ho approach to it, like voting down any reviews that liked SS2. So you didn't like the game which many others like, cool. Just leave it to that, like I did.
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odinfan
うぐぅ!
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted November 15, 2015
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I find TLOU overrated garbage because it is linear and simply a rehash of the TWD story. But you can't fault me for that, because I simply don't play mainstream games that often (Deus Ex or SS2, despite what people say ISN'T mainstream).
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I didn't say anyone was wrong to dislike popular games. I hate Borderlands and Dungeon Defenders. It doesn't mean they're bad though. People have a misconception that if you don't like a game then it's a bad game. I think the aforementioned are solid titles in terms of performance and for the time. They just suck in my opinion.
My view is an example of objectivity because I'm able to separate my personal experience with the quality of a game and other people's experiences. I wouldn't recommend the games but if you like them then great for you.
People need to learn the difference between all of these things so they don't get unnecessarily defensive/offensive.
In essence, whether the majority or minority are correct isn't (and can't be) objective EITHER WAY. They're simply one's views and there are NO TRUE opinions (unless you want to break how facts and opinions work).
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l0rdtr3k
Serial Hugger
Registered: Oct 2011
From Brazil
Posted November 15, 2015
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However, I don't get OP's gung-ho approach to it, like voting down any reviews that liked SS2. So you didn't like the game which many others like, cool. Just leave it to that, like I did.
But the atmosphere,story(the audiologs are some of the most creepy and downright nightmare fuel stuff I hear in gaming) and SHODAM really made me go on.
But best game ever,as some people say,for me that honor goes to Metal Gear Solid 3.
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Smannesman
4-bit classic
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted November 15, 2015
First that's a completely unjustified dick move and second there is no 'downvoting' of reviews, there's just a 'is this helpful or not' voting function.
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rampancy
Think Different.
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted November 15, 2015
I'm highly amused. The OP is trying to manipulate user reviews to suit his own personal subjective preferences, and then goes to accuse GOG of manipulating user reviews to suit their own personal subjective preferences.
MaximumBunny: You know it's a universally praised game, right? And your opinion of the game is a "subjective" experience. Your attempts to bring the game down for everyone is evidence that you lack understanding of what objectivity actually consists of.
odinfan: Let's not get ahead of ourselves here now. I personally don't agree with the OP, but there have been countless games that have had universal appraise that I'd dislike myself. The Last of Us being one prime example (and in turn of which I praise DX and SS2 for the same reason, or similarly the original Fallouts). It's one thing to disagree with majority opinions on a game. For instance, I actually enjoyed my time with Daikatana. And I don't think that Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts is the greatest RPG of all time.
It's another thing entirely to denounce opinions that dissent from your own as being wholly invalid, or interpret anything other than an instantaneous, unconditional validation of your own personal opinion above all others as being a personal attack against you.
Put another way, a game which really irritated me lately is Telepath Tactics, for reasons that I personally feel are poor design choices, that deprived me of any enjoyment of what seemed like a very engaging setting and cast of characters. Do I think the game is bad? Yes, I do. But would I try to downvote every other single positive review, or assume that those positive reviews are fakes posted by sock puppet alts of the dev? Of course not. And I certainly wouldn't assume that it'd impossible for others to consider it a good game based on my opinion. Because there are a lot of others who do think it's a good game, and those people have a different set of expectations and preferences out of a game like TT, than I.
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It's another thing entirely to denounce opinions that dissent from your own as being wholly invalid, or interpret anything other than an instantaneous, unconditional validation of your own personal opinion above all others as being a personal attack against you.
Put another way, a game which really irritated me lately is Telepath Tactics, for reasons that I personally feel are poor design choices, that deprived me of any enjoyment of what seemed like a very engaging setting and cast of characters. Do I think the game is bad? Yes, I do. But would I try to downvote every other single positive review, or assume that those positive reviews are fakes posted by sock puppet alts of the dev? Of course not. And I certainly wouldn't assume that it'd impossible for others to consider it a good game based on my opinion. Because there are a lot of others who do think it's a good game, and those people have a different set of expectations and preferences out of a game like TT, than I.