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amok: hm, no. The game is a porn game, it is sold as a porn game, and that's fine. It probably do not belong on gOg and that's fine. It is not an asset flip, though.... however, gOg want to be a serious game store, and it is expected that they also behave as such. It is perfectly fine to not have the game here, but then just say so to the developer. Typing "sorry, this game is not appropriate for this store. good luck on other stores, though" took me litteraly less than 3 seconds to type, it is a professional way to behave, and all parties are clear on where they stand.
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MarkoH01: To stay fair: GOG and communication always was a big problem ... not just between their customers. I also heard from several devs that sometimes GOG is really slow in repsonding at all. And I am talking about perfectly mainstream games which are now sold on GOG. It's just GOG being GOG. I wish it were different. To give an example: years ago I communicated with JudasIscariot basically on a daily basis and then - from one day to another - no reply at all. Asking GOG what happened I never got an answer... I still have no idea what happened. I know that he is still working there but that's basically all I know. Obviously it is a big secret why communication has stopped completely .... so much for GOG and communication.
looks like gog is in dire need for new blood , fire the current team and hire new ones
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amok: hm, no. The game is a porn game, it is sold as a porn game, and that's fine. It probably do not belong on gOg and that's fine.
There is already stuff like HuniePop on GOG so not sure I'd take that as an argument. And no, I'm not gonna buy someone telling me that they bought it for the unmatched "match 3" gameplay it offers ;)

And with stuff like Succubus or Agony coming here soon, it would not seem as out of place as it would have a couple of years ago. I don't really care if this game comes here or not, just saying that I wouldn't have a problem with it, even though I'm absolutely not interested in it.
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amok: hm, no. The game is a porn game, it is sold as a porn game, and that's fine. It probably do not belong on gOg and that's fine.
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idbeholdME: There is already stuff like HuniePop on GOG so not sure I'd take that as an argument. And no, I'm not gonna buy someone telling me that they bought it for the unmatched "match 3" gameplay it offers ;)

And with stuff like Succubus or Agony coming here soon, it would not seem as out of place as it would have a couple of years ago. I don't really care if this game comes here or not, just saying that I wouldn't have a problem with it, even though I'm absolutely not interested in it.
i'm not saying they are right or wrong with their decisions, as a store they have the rights to refuse to sell whatever product for whatever reasons. What I am saying is that it just right and professional to let the developer know that they are not going to sell it. e.g. basic proffessional communication, even if it is only 1 line of text
Post edited July 12, 2021 by amok
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amok: What I am saying is that it just right and professional to let the developer know that they are not going to sell it. e.g. basic proffessional communication, even if it is only 1 line of text
That is definitely true. The latest example of which could be the Selaco game, which took a constant bumping of a forum thread to get GOG to acknowledge it and respond. Even simply saying no is better than nothing.
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amok: hm, no. The game is a porn game, it is sold as a porn game, and that's fine. It probably do not belong on gOg and that's fine.
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idbeholdME: There is already stuff like HuniePop on GOG so not sure I'd take that as an argument. And no, I'm not gonna buy someone telling me that they bought it for the unmatched "match 3" gameplay it offers ;)
Obviously you did not play HP then since the match 3 aspect is very well done and is really fun. The "dating" part is basically just a fun addition. The dialogues are so ridiculously unrealistic that it is fun too. :)

Anyway, regarding HP being a porn game - keep in mind that GOG only sells it censored so this might be different.
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idbeholdME: Even simply saying no is better than nothing.
Every communication is better than no communication at all. Something I remember telling GOG again and again :)
Post edited July 13, 2021 by MarkoH01
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coffeecup: Disclaimer: I am one of Subverse's backers and getting already very giddy about being able to play it (it is sitting locked in my steam library since ages though).

Although Subverse is not your typical adult game, it is a "normal" game with tactical combat, shooter elements, Elite (the game) elements and would work without all sexy stuff, it is way way more raunchy than The Witcher, Leisure Suit Larry and all other more "risqué" games combined here on GOG. In addition to its explicit material, the drawing style is modern, more "realistic" western style, not japanese style.
Heh i remember watching the trailer for the game. Funny as hell. If i hadn't dropped doing kickstarter stuff i'd have dropped a few on them.

But what i have seen of the game (ignoring the 'sexy stuff') actually looked rather fun. A really good game would be fun regardless if it had adult content in it or not. A bad one that only halfway works because of it on the other hand, well...
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MarkoH01: Anyway, regarding HP being a porn game - keep in mind that GOG only sells it censored so this might be different.
Every communication is better than no communication at all. Something I remember telling GOG again and again :)
Yeah, as far as i know HP is censored, i still think though GoG is missing a Huge chance here
getting a bit more market share from Steam, specially with Subverse.

Indeed, the lack of communication is rly bad, but wasn t it like that ever since Linko90 was forced
to go? Anyway, bringing Subverse to GoG would be a chance and right now, i suspect CDP can use
any € they can get.
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GHOSTMD: but wasn t it like that ever since Linko90 was forced
to go?
Yes. And that's probably also the reason. After what happened GOG probably is extra careful with whatever they are saying. I till think that they overreacte and that Linko did great as community manager but what happened happened.
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GHOSTMD: but wasn t it like that ever since Linko90 was forced
to go?
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MarkoH01: Yes. And that's probably also the reason. After what happened GOG probably is extra careful with whatever they are saying. I till think that they overreacte and that Linko did great as community manager but what happened happened.
He was, well at this point can t be helped. Just hope that the GoG / Galaxy dev team reads the
forum and might consider bringing games Like Subverse in.

(still think it would be a huge chance for Gog to allow adult games)
before steam does it
It's still an issue with allowing adult games being sold... anywhere. Just like with anything to do with the adult entertainment industry. Not all places that sell games are going to be able to sell games like Subverse. I think it was AO ratings ( Adult Only ) that get that "honor" of not being allowed to be sold just anywhere but on specific shops only because of it's very nature. Any less would bring very possibly bring about a lot of legal trouble that could destroy a company because they tried.

Sadly GOG has to be very careful with this even though they aren't based in the US, they still allow for anyone outside of their country to buy from their store.

Hmm... poster above me is in Germany and wants this game here.. guessing it's because Steam had to block a few types of games from sale because of laws there changing. That won't change when they found out what other stores are going to be possible to sell the games one store isn't allowed at that time. Careful what you wish for.
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Arinielle: It's still an issue with allowing adult games being sold... anywhere. Just like with anything to do with the adult entertainment industry. Not all places that sell games are going to be able to sell games like Subverse. I think it was AO ratings ( Adult Only ) that get that "honor" of not being allowed to be sold just anywhere but on specific shops only because of it's very nature. Any less would bring very possibly bring about a lot of legal trouble that could destroy a company because they tried.

Sadly GOG has to be very careful with this even though they aren't based in the US, they still allow for anyone outside of their country to buy from their store.

Hmm... poster above me is in Germany and wants this game here.. guessing it's because Steam had to block a few types of games from sale because of laws there changing. That won't change when they found out what other stores are going to be possible to sell the games one store isn't allowed at that time. Careful what you wish for.
Videogames have ratings at least since the nineties at least under European or American Laws.. The legality is the same in digital stores. Your philias or phobias are irrelevant and it is good to be in that way. If the case is you are worried about your children or yourself, the last responsibility will be yours.
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Arinielle: Hmm... poster above me is in Germany and wants this game here.. guessing it's because Steam had to block a few types of games from sale because of laws there changing. That won't change when they found out what other stores are going to be possible to sell the games one store isn't allowed at that time. Careful what you wish for.
Not true. Our laws did not change. There sinply were some institutions (which had NOTHING to do with any law and therefore it is quite ridiculous) that thought that it would be too easy to get AO material on the net and therefore they pressured Valve and others ... Valve went the way of least resistence and blocked such games in Germany.

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/steam-adult-only-spiele-sperre-deutschland,3365462.html

"Der konkrete Grund für die Sperrung von Spielen mit sexuellen Inhalten war eine Beschwerde der Medienanstalt Hamburg/Schleswig-Holstein... "

Translation: "The reason for the region lock for games with sexual content was a complaint of the "Medienanstalt Schleswig-Holstein..."

To make it more clear:

"Die Medienanstalt Hamburg / Schleswig-Holstein ist zuständig für die Zulassung, Aufsicht und Überprüfung von privaten Rundfunkanbietern und Internetseiten."

Translation: "The "Medienanstalt Hamburg/Schleswig-Holstein" is responsible to oversee and evaluate private broadcasts and internet sites"

As you can see - they have nothing to do with any laws in fact they anren't even responsible for the whole country ... they complained and Steam went the easy route.

Also, again the only reason for this complaint was that children could get access to those sites far too easily. Valve thought it would be too complicated to restrict just children (age verification) and decided to simply block everyone with a German ip. So Valve is to blame as well.
Post edited July 18, 2021 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: Valve thought it would be too complicated to restrict.....
If what was requested was an ID check system(national id card or etc as proof) then i''m glad valve said no, as they likely would've had to implement it worldwide, and I don't think all steam's customers should have to deal with that sort of nonsense just because one country wants to be over-protective of it's citizens.

(side note: I also think parents should do their jobs and monitor[and restrict, where needed] other family member's access to game sites/other sites, and not have to have their govts act as nannies)
Post edited July 18, 2021 by GamezRanker
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Arinielle: Hmm... poster above me is in Germany and wants this game here.. guessing it's because Steam had to block a few types of games from sale because of laws there changing. That won't change when they found out what other stores are going to be possible to sell the games one store isn't allowed at that time. Careful what you wish for.
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MarkoH01: Not true. Our laws did not change. There sinply were some institutions (which had NOTHING to do with any law and therefore it is quite ridiculous) that thought that it would be too easy to get AO material on the net and therefore they pressured Valve and others ... Valve went the way of least resistence and blocked such games in Germany.

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/steam-adult-only-spiele-sperre-deutschland,3365462.html

"Der konkrete Grund für die Sperrung von Spielen mit sexuellen Inhalten war eine Beschwerde der Medienanstalt Hamburg/Schleswig-Holstein... "

Translation: "The reason for the region lock for games with sexual content was a complaint of the "Medienanstalt Schleswig-Holstein..."

To make it more clear:

"Die Medienanstalt Hamburg / Schleswig-Holstein ist zuständig für die Zulassung, Aufsicht und Überprüfung von privaten Rundfunkanbietern und Internetseiten."

Translation: "The "Medienanstalt Hamburg/Schleswig-Holstein" is responsible to oversee and evaluate private broadcasts and internet sites"

As you can see - they have nothing to do with any laws in fact they anren't even responsible for the whole country ... they complained and Steam went the easy route.

Also, again the only reason for this complaint was that children could get access to those sites far too easily. Valve thought it would be too complicated to restrict just children (age verification) and decided to simply block everyone with a German ip. So Valve is to blame as well.
Ah, I see now. Thanks. .. sorry, been busy irl so just now checking things.
Sooo apparently GoG does listen to suggestions
CP77 has a "Age confirmation" now when you enter the Product site.
Time for Subcerse to hop on GoG amongst other Adult content / PEGI 18
USK 18 games