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Posted December 09, 2016
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darthspudius: Well then you've been given a good reason to use Galaxy!
That's one of the main reasons I started using it. Well, that and since I'm rarely bothering with backing up setup files it makes the whole installation process easier and smoother in general... and my desktop isn't littered with shortcuts anymore.

I do like that it allows for easily rolling back to previous patches if needed/desired. As far as I know, Galaxy is the only client that provides that kind of feature.
Post edited December 09, 2016 by mistermumbles
Posted December 09, 2016
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HereForTheBeer: "Download Galaxy, run it to get the updates, and then shut it off again." In that case, may as well go with the Steam client, since one can do the exact same thing there with the DRM-free titles AND get the updates sooner. AND not run a beta client.

Looks, updates aren't the end of the world for me. They're just games, and I can play something else until I can get the updates. And yet, why does a small change that might be along the lines of 10MB when using a client require a multi-gigabyte download if one isn't comfortable using / doesn't want to use a beta client?
Even so, it still much better than the alternative. Galaxy lets you still download standalone installers, other clients do not. GOG also has stated they would like to integrate some form of a backup feature or even including install scripts for Galaxy users, assuming they do this correctly by allowing a game to be backed up and installed on another PC completely offline and with or without Galaxy installed they will again be way of ahead of other clients. It could also pretty much faze out the need for standalone installers.

Steam of course allows backups but you have to be online and on Steam to re-install them.

Galaxy also does things like delta patching (or will support it anyway), which will make updates smaller on Galaxy.
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Posted December 10, 2016
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USERNAME:HereForTheBeer#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:25#Q&_^Q&Q#"Download Galaxy, run it to get the updates, and then shut it off again." In that case, may as well go with the Steam client, since one can do the exact same thing there with the DRM-free titles AND get the updates sooner. AND not run a beta client.

Looks, updates aren't the end of the world for me. They're just games, and I can play something else until I can get the updates. And yet, why does a small change that might be along the lines of 10MB when using a client require a multi-gigabyte download if one isn't comfortable using / doesn't want to use a beta client?#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:25#Q&_^Q&Q#
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Better than the alternative... sure, if the alternative means nothing at all for everybody. But another, better alternative is to allow smaller updates through means beyond the optional client.

I guess I'm a bit baffled in this: whatever mechanism is being used for Galaxy, it could probably be used in a stand-alone patch / update doohickey. So why isn't it? Can't there be a client-lite like an updated Downloader? Something smaller, simpler, and manual-er. Something friendly to those who either prefer to DIY as much as possible or have various internet connection limitations to work around. Or whatever reason. I mean, do we really need to download a 145MB Galaxy installer to retrieve a 4MB update? Especially when the update is the only feature we'd use.

Anyway, I'll just keep leeching off the connection of local family members, and off whatever hotel I'm staying at next week or whenever I travel again. It isn't ideal, but it's working.
Posted December 10, 2016
you spelled "stop" wrong.

*flees*

:)
Posted December 10, 2016
Fully agree. Voted.
Posted December 10, 2016
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Crewdroog: you spelled "stop" wrong.

*flees*

:)
You spelled "We'll see you at the Superbowl" wrong ;p

*fleas repellent*
Posted December 10, 2016
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HereForTheBeer: Better than the alternative... sure, if the alternative means nothing at all for everybody. But another, better alternative is to allow smaller updates through means beyond the optional client.
I didn't even touch on the fact that you don't even know what your really getting with Steam either half the time. You might also be getting Rockstar Social Club, uPlay, Denuvo, or any number of 3rd part clients/DRM systems on top of Steam. On Galaxy I know what I'm getting. A game on a client with no extra baggage that I may need to use now and then to play online, but can largely be ignored if I want too. This is literally the main reason I like GOG and Galaxy, and literally why I was driven away from Steam.

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HereForTheBeer: I guess I'm a bit baffled in this: whatever mechanism is being used for Galaxy, it could probably be used in a stand-alone patch / update doohickey. So why isn't it? Can't there be a client-lite like an updated Downloader? Something smaller, simpler, and manual-er. Something friendly to those who either prefer to DIY as much as possible or have various internet connection limitations to work around. Or whatever reason. I mean, do we really need to download a 145MB Galaxy installer to retrieve a 4MB update? Especially when the update is the only feature we'd use.
Could be sure... the reason is they want Galaxy to be the center of everything you do on GOG that isn't on the site. Even stripped down version would be another piece of software that has to be maintained. It's not ideal to have two pieces of software that basically doing the exact same thing, it's actually redundant. If they are based on the same architecture, then you would also have a lot of overlap (ie same bug having to be fixed on both versions, meaning twice the amount of work).

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HereForTheBeer: Anyway, I'll just keep leeching off the connection of local family members, and off whatever hotel I'm staying at next week or whenever I travel again. It isn't ideal, but it's working.
We have all been there... I'm still there actually. Which is a reason to use Galaxy for me, not a reason not to.
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Posted December 10, 2016
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USERNAME:HereForTheBeer#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:33#Q&_^Q&Q#I guess I'm a bit baffled in this: whatever mechanism is being used for Galaxy, it could probably be used in a stand-alone patch / update doohickey. So why isn't it? Can't there be a client-lite like an updated Downloader? Something smaller, simpler, and manual-er. Something friendly to those who either prefer to DIY as much as possible or have various internet connection limitations to work around. Or whatever reason. I mean, do we really need to download a 145MB Galaxy installer to retrieve a 4MB update? Especially when the update is the only feature we'd use.#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:33#Q&_^Q&Q#
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Well, there's a reason I don't buy Swiss Army knives: too many tools I will never use, and it's not the best solution for the ones I might use. Or pick any other similar analogy. If I get a tool to do one or more things, then I want to use most everything that simple tool does, and I want it to do them really well and as easily as possible.

Yes, I'll note a couple ironic / puzzling things about my feelings on the matter:

- these are games and not something critical, so what's the BFD?
- the Galaxy download + its own updates is much smaller than a couple of the full games I'd have to download to get the latest game updates

I get it. On the face of it my position makes no sense. Yet I'm not ready/willing to dive into the ongoing beta, and there are better and simpler solutions that could be implemented that dovetail with Galaxy. Using the Downloader is pretty darn simple. I'd have no gripes whatsoever if the updates could be obtained through that.

Anyway, not going to lose any sleep over the matter. It's annoying, and I have ways to get around it.
Posted December 10, 2016
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HereForTheBeer: Well, there's a reason I don't buy Swiss Army knives: too many tools I will never use, and it's not the best solution for the ones I might use. Or pick any other similar analogy. If I get a tool to do one or more things, then I want to use most everything that simple tool does, and I want it to do them really well and as easily as possible.
Well for one your not buying Galaxy, it's free. Also I would rather ignore (or disable) what I won't use, and have it available... then possibly want (or need) that option in the future and not have it. But to each their own.
Post edited December 10, 2016 by user deleted
Posted December 10, 2016
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Crewdroog: you spelled "stop" wrong.

*flees*

:)
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fishbaits: You spelled "We'll see you at the Superbowl" wrong ;p

*fleas repellent*
lmao

wut, we can still make it. *rolls eyes*
Posted December 10, 2016
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Crewdroog: you spelled "stop" wrong.

*flees*

:)
You spelled wrong ''wong''
Posted December 10, 2016
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USERNAME:HereForTheBeer#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:38#Q&_^Q&Q#Well, there's a reason I don't buy Swiss Army knives: too many tools I will never use, and it's not the best solution for the ones I might use. Or pick any other similar analogy. If I get a tool to do one or more things, then I want to use most everything that simple tool does, and I want it to do them really well and as easily as possible.#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:38#Q&_^Q&Q#
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Would it make more sense if I told you I tend to use the term "whippersnapper" a lot more these days, and my other hobby is telling kids to get off my lawn? ; )
Posted December 10, 2016
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timppu: Which game stores do it better than GOG?

Steam doesn't because they don't even offer any offline installers, let alone offline patches for games. You have to use their client to download and update your games (at least to do it in an official way). Same goes for EA Origin.
Steam's also prone to losing update/install progress if a newer build is pushed live while you are mid-download. And lately some games have been creating a complete copy of the game in the download folder and the install folder so for like a 40GB game it's eating 80GB just to patch the damn thing. Had to uninstall a bunch of shit just to update because of course on Steam updates aren't optional at all...

Worst shit ever with slow internet.
Posted December 10, 2016
GOG needs to develop a better delta system even for Galaxy. :V
Posted December 10, 2016
Welp, I caved.
I had to resort to DLing the entire package all over again via GOGDownloader (still refusing to use the "optional" galaxy beta thing.

Aaaaaaaaaaand, it fucked my game up, but worse than that....

"You are not logged into Galaxy Client. Please quit the game and log into Galaxy Client or choose a profile from list below:"

I picked my games profile, game now won't even load.
Only way to ever get the option to pick a profile is to install the sodding thing all over again!!
Even then, I did what I was meant to do.

Looks like only other option is to uninstall the game & start over.
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