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Deals so good, you won't want to fall asleep.
You remember back when you used to walk into a store, browse the shelves, pick out a game, and then buy it--all in the actual real world? We don't know about you, but most of us at GOG.com have had our limbs atrophy to small vestigial nubbins since all of our shopping happens online these days. Of course, one thing that sometimes happens in real world stores with real world goods--particularly when they have a good sale--is that they run out of stock. Usually that means that the deal was so good that they couldn't keep up with demand.

Well, in the digital realm, this is usually pretty rare. How do you run out of stock on digital games, short of entropy devouring the universe? Well, we have gotten 101 games that will be on sale on the front page of GOG.com, but the discounts are so high at the moment that we can't just sell an unlimited number of copies of these games: we are only able to sell a few at these discounts--up to 80% off--and once they're gone, they're gone.

So what games will be on sale in our Insomnia promo? Bestselling classics and new games alike. There will also occasionally be some free games in super limited numbers (like, 20 or 30 copies)--if you're fast enough on the trigger finger to pick 'em up, that is. The deal will run from now until we're out of "stock" of games for the sale, and games may show up more than once. So it's time to bathe in a tub of coffee*, dip some espresso**, snort an energy drink***, or do whatever else it takes to stay up so you don't miss out on the best deals on fantastic games on GOG.com since summer.
*This is probably not a good idea
**This is definitely not a good idea
***This is totally safe, though****
****NO IT'S NOT WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU CRAZY PERSON
Post edited November 13, 2013 by TheEnigmaticT
Games I was planning on buying:
Myst

Games I actually bought:

Anodyne
Tales of Monkey Island
Theme Hospital
Don't Starve
Witcher 2 (can't even play on my crappy computer, so I'm not sure why I bought it, lol. Just to torment myself :( )
System Shock 2
Jade Empire


Hhmmm... :S

The good news is that I have so many new games I don't think I'll be tempted by any upcoming Christmas sales!
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JoseWisemang: http://youtu.be/oKD-MVfC9Ag?t=38m44s

Please excuse my montage victory lap.
<applause>
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Schemilix: And you just blundered right into, 'feminists are inconvenient to me, therefore I'm going to insult them and/or say they're obsolete'.
I never mentioned feminists, I specifically talked about political correctness and then later I mentioned identity politics. I didn't insult anyone I responded to, and I certainly didn't say any of them were "obsolete"... To put this kindly, your description here of what my responses supposedly were comprised of is a complete distortion.


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Schemilix: You say there is no victim/oppressor relationship because you are on the advantageous end of a bad gender imbalance. I'm not calling you an oppressor. To say that you are not is to, again, pull the argument onto what matters to the male sex, what is important to the male sex and what affects him. It is a very entitled viewpoint to say that you are offended by others being offended. Nobody's calling you an oppressor, nobody's saying you tread people down. What people are saying is that you benefit from a system others have constructed, and you are, in your viewpoint, obstructing the deconstruction of that - what is called the patriarchy - because the status quo benefits you.
You are not calling me an "oppressor" after you respond to be directly with this? "On the other hand you are, I assume, a man, and don't understand what it is to be marginalised for your sex. .... The methods of conduct should not be defined by the oppressor basically." So what am I then? A mere tool of some other all encompassing male "oppressor"?

Ridiculous.

As I said before, you assume some inherent oppressor/victim relationship is at the core of everything and you feel that merely asserting your assumptive beliefs should inform the politically correct standards for language and conduct of everyone else before all other considerations. AGAIN, I enjoy pleasant civil conversations more than I do your unfounded accusations. Where any non-compliance is proof of some complicity in a larger but always vague systemic oppression of whatever identity pressure group you are pushing some agenda for. Your attempts to determine what is legitimate polite conversation through social pressure and assuming inherent guilt on those who don't immediately comply is about control and power. Not about politeness, civility or being well-mannered.


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Schemilix: Your viewpoint is one of 'well it doesn't affect me, so anyone saying it exists must be stupid'. In gaming women are marginalised, often insulted purely for being around. Not you, no. But your actions do not exist in a bubble. Political correctness has nothing to do with this. Just respect when someone would like to be acknowledged, would you? It's a simple, plain request which takes little effort from you. I for one use guys gender neutrally. Others do not. If someone if bothered, don't get offended if they're upset by entering into a friendly environment and being effectively ignored.
I never stated or implied that anyone who believed as you seem to "must be stupid". You are doing me the disservice of putting words into my mouth that I never actually said. Come on...

I use common sense, decency, and basic courtesy to inform my thoughts, speech, and actions in response to the demands or expectations of others. If another person feels as if they are only acknowledged when everyone else conforms to politically correct standards regarding gender neutral speech, I politely refuse. Why? Because their concern usually isn't about civility or politeness or any other reasonable measure of basic good manners, it typically is about demanding or imposing excessive deferential treatment towards particular social sensibilities. There is no end to it. Someone will always be offended by something, and your thought police orthodoxy will demand everyone else shift to protect the overly sensitive hurt sensibilities of the "victims".
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nightrunner227: I'm going to sleep for 4 hours. Would someone being willing to pick up an extra King of Dragon Pass and/or Jade Empire SE if they pop up? I'll pay you back.
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IAmSinistar: Stooner pointed me to your post. Do you still need King of Dragon Pass? It was one of the games I grabbed an extra key for.
No, I managed to grab it. Thanks though :)
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amarokster: Games I was planning on buying:
Myst

Games I actually bought:

Anodyne
Tales of Monkey Island
Theme Hospital
Don't Starve
Witcher 2 (can't even play on my crappy computer, so I'm not sure why I bought it, lol. Just to torment myself :( )
System Shock 2
Jade Empire

Hhmmm... :S

The good news is that I have so many new games I don't think I'll be tempted by any upcoming Christmas sales!
Wait until you see all the games you didn't know were here on GoG, or had never heard of before, and... you discover these hidden gems whilst they are being offered at some of the biggest discounts of the year.... save up some more money. ;)
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don2712: I have been wondering how many female participants there were in this promo, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of games written to interest female players, they seem to be almost exclusively written by men for men.

I've tried to get my wife interested in video games without any success, she can't understand why I play them or what I see in them. Her fovourite comment is "Why do you always have to be killing things?" which is not strictly true as I have many games with no fighting at all plus, I have explained that when the Zombie apocalypse comes I'll be well trained and ready but, that doesn't seem to help.

Perhaps, with us guys trying to get our partners interested is just an effort to get our hobby accepted as a valid pastime and not a silly waste of time and money when there are always more important things to do and buy, our ladies do not seem to appreciate that at least it keeps us off the streets.

If there are any ladies on this blog I would be interested to hear their views.
I'm a big fan of RPGs and from where I started (written role playing games and an Elder Scrolls community) there seemed to be equally many female and male players/members. I never lie about my gender, if someone asks I answer but if someone I don't know just assumes something, I neither care nor correct him.

I don't think I'll (or the female gamers I know) ever need a game made "for female players". Just GOOD games, maybe with some nice little flowers to pick (so we can make potions of them to cast more powerful fireballs to burn down all our enemies :P)

Funny thing is, I always imagine it hard to find a boyfriend one day who accepts my gaming habit :D

Oh, and the Zombie apocalypse? I'll just get eaten.
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IAmSinistar: Stooner pointed me to your post. Do you still need King of Dragon Pass? It was one of the games I grabbed an extra key for.
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nightrunner227: No, I managed to grab it. Thanks though :)
Good deal!
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GhostwriterDoF: After Jade Empire the forums started crashing a lot so I just started downloading games and took a nap. Sitting here all those hours reading through this Thread, and posting, was fun, but draining. heh
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CarrionCrow: It was kinda funny and almost poetic in a way. Started with the Atlas bear and what happens at the very end? Atlas bear puts in an appearance. It was almost like the forum had brought us all to the end even though it was pushed to the max, and then it rolled over and died for about ten minutes.
I know I'm not the only one here who took a screenshot of the Atlas bear, (GoG bear?). :D
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Schemilix: And you just blundered right into, 'feminists are inconvenient to me, therefore I'm going to insult them and/or say they're obsolete'.
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seaspanky: I never mentioned feminists, I specifically talked about political correctness and then later I mentioned identity politics. I didn't insult anyone I responded to, and I certainly didn't say any of them were "obsolete"... To put this kindly, your description here of what my responses supposedly were comprised of is a complete distortion.

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Schemilix: You say there is no victim/oppressor relationship because you are on the advantageous end of a bad gender imbalance. I'm not calling you an oppressor. To say that you are not is to, again, pull the argument onto what matters to the male sex, what is important to the male sex and what affects him. It is a very entitled viewpoint to say that you are offended by others being offended. Nobody's calling you an oppressor, nobody's saying you tread people down. What people are saying is that you benefit from a system others have constructed, and you are, in your viewpoint, obstructing the deconstruction of that - what is called the patriarchy - because the status quo benefits you.
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seaspanky: You are not calling me an "oppressor" after you respond to be directly with this? "On the other hand you are, I assume, a man, and don't understand what it is to be marginalised for your sex. .... The methods of conduct should not be defined by the oppressor basically." So what am I then? A mere tool of some other all encompassing male "oppressor"?

Ridiculous.

As I said before, you assume some inherent oppressor/victim relationship is at the core of everything and you feel that merely asserting your assumptive beliefs should inform the politically correct standards for language and conduct of everyone else before all other considerations. AGAIN, I enjoy pleasant civil conversations more than I do your unfounded accusations. Where any non-compliance is proof of some complicity in a larger but always vague systemic oppression of whatever identity pressure group you are pushing some agenda for. Your attempts to determine what is legitimate polite conversation through social pressure and assuming inherent guilt on those who don't immediately comply is about control and power. Not about politeness, civility or being well-mannered.

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Schemilix: Your viewpoint is one of 'well it doesn't affect me, so anyone saying it exists must be stupid'. In gaming women are marginalised, often insulted purely for being around. Not you, no. But your actions do not exist in a bubble. Political correctness has nothing to do with this. Just respect when someone would like to be acknowledged, would you? It's a simple, plain request which takes little effort from you. I for one use guys gender neutrally. Others do not. If someone if bothered, don't get offended if they're upset by entering into a friendly environment and being effectively ignored.
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seaspanky: I never stated or implied that anyone who believed as you seem to "must be stupid". You are doing me the disservice of putting words into my mouth that I never actually said. Come on...

I use common sense, decency, and basic courtesy to inform my thoughts, speech, and actions in response to the demands or expectations of others. If another person feels as if they are only acknowledged when everyone else conforms to politically correct standards regarding gender neutral speech, I politely refuse. Why? Because their concern usually isn't about civility or politeness or any other reasonable measure of basic good manners, it typically is about demanding or imposing excessive deferential treatment towards particular social sensibilities. There is no end to it. Someone will always be offended by something, and your thought police orthodoxy will demand everyone else shift to protect the overly sensitive hurt sensibilities of the "victims".
I'm not trying to police your thoughts, man, I'm telling you to respect other people and their choices and desires. Anyway, you're probably just tired from this sale so you're getting angry at things because you want a 'pleasant civil conversation' your way and your way only right now, that happens, and there's no use repeating myself at you because you're not going to listen, so just... take care I guess.
Post edited November 19, 2013 by Schemilix
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don2712: I have been wondering how many female participants there were in this promo, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of games written to interest female players, they seem to be almost exclusively written by men for men.

I've tried to get my wife interested in video games without any success, she can't understand why I play them or what I see in them. Her fovourite comment is "Why do you always have to be killing things?" which is not strictly true as I have many games with no fighting at all plus, I have explained that when the Zombie apocalypse comes I'll be well trained and ready but, that doesn't seem to help.

Perhaps, with us guys trying to get our partners interested is just an effort to get our hobby accepted as a valid pastime and not a silly waste of time and money when there are always more important things to do and buy, our ladies do not seem to appreciate that at least it keeps us off the streets.

If there are any ladies on this blog I would be interested to hear their views.
I have the exact opposite scenario as I am literally surrounded by female gamers (my family is like 80% female, going back like 3 generations) and most of them are gamers. On top of that, my wife is as big of a gamer as I have ever been. Its uncanny how similar our beginning years were in regards to gaming. Like me, she owned an Intellivsion and not an Atari 2600. She also had the same computers I did (Commodore 64, Commodore 128, Amiga 500 Etc.). It really is uncanny just how similar a path we took in regards to gaming.

I think you would be shocked by the numbers coming out of the gaming industry. According to ESA's 2013 demographic study, 55% of gamers are male and 45% are female. That's means female gamers are just 5% away from being an even split in the gaming market.

Here are some other interesting tidbits based on ESA's 2011 demographic study.

* 58% of all Americans play Videogames

* There are an average of 2 gamers in each game playing US household.

* The average U.S. household owns at least one game dedicated console, PC or Smartphone.

* 51% of U.S. households own a dedicated game console, and those that do own an average of two.

* The average age of game players is 30 years.

* Women 18 and older represent a significantly greater portion of the game playing population (31%) than boys age 17 and younger (19%).

* Average age of the most frequent game purchaser is 35.

* Of the most frequent game purchasers, 54% are male and 46% are female.

* 43% of gamers believe that video games give them the most value for their money, compared with DVD's, Music, or going to the movies.

* Gamers who are playing more video games today than they did 3 years ago are spending, on average, 49% less time watching TV, 44% less time watching movies at home, and 47% less time going to the movies.

* Gamers who own a dedicated game console use them for other entertainment media, in addition to playing games, 42% use them to watch movies, 22% use them to listen to music, 19% use them to watch TV shows, and 5% use them to watch live content.

* 62% of gamers play games with others, either in person or online.

* 32% of gamers play social games.

* Average number of years gamers have been playing games - 13 years.

* Average number of years adult gamers have been playing games - 15 years (males average 17, females 13)

Here is the full report in case anyone is interested in reading it. There is a lot of interesting info in there.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2013.pdf

The bottom line is there are a CRAPLOAD of female gamers out there.
Post edited November 19, 2013 by RighteousNixon
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Schemilix: I en't a lady as such but I know lady-gamers. Either way, yeah, not all games are violent. Gaming really is looked down upon as childish or destructive, but any new form of media is. People don't like change.

Games're just too reluctant to market something gender-neutrally. For girls you get to pretend to be a vet or a cook or whatever. For boys you get titties and shootin' stuff. Ridiculous marketing.

FInal Fantasy is very popular among women because they lack such obviously gendered marketing, and, recognising that, Final Fantasy now cater to all genders in their stuff. And orientations, too. They put in eye candy for people into men or into women. I think that's part of it. Women can enjoy a sexy protag, too.

I'm into girls but the 'sexy girls' used in games don't appeal to me, partially because I know the anatomy don't work that way. Sexualising's all well and fine but it tends to be at the expense of character development. It's a slight stereotype but females do tend to prioritise story over other aspects of games. Women, as a rule, are very into immersion and such, and like to sympathise with characters. It's why 'fandoms' tend to be composed mainly of women; women get involved in things and like to create things to reflect that. So do men natch, but just in my experience I notice it's something of a story vs. gameplay thing.
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cpucrust: Now this is an interesting sub-thread. My wife rolled her eyes when she observed how much time I was devoting to catching the insomnia sales. In the past, she has played some network games like Age of Empires. But there are so many other things she would rather do with her 'fun/free' time. Not all women are like this, of course, but in my circles of people I know, it is safe to say in general that computer/console gaming is on a lower level of interest for them.

I love my wife dearly and she tolerates my interests as I tolerate hers. Fortunately books and movies are of a common interest between us. I'm amazed that she wants to go see action movies like "Fast&Furious" and all the Sci Fi/Fantasy stuff - no "Sleepless in Seattle" crap for her!
Recently she informed/teased me how much I've spent on GOG. I lightly replied that the catalog of games adds up to about two beauty salon visits for her(!) It's all good though - I respect her and her interests even though I don't fully understand the way she thinks about certain things.

I have a good laugh at the sexualization's in some of these games I have though and generally try to avoid the titles that have too much of it.
I am in a similar situation to you - my man is not into gaming at-all and he would definitely roll his eyes if I started boring him with details of the insomnia sale :)
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don2712: I have been wondering how many female participants there were in this promo, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of games written to interest female players, they seem to be almost exclusively written by men for men.

I've tried to get my wife interested in video games without any success, she can't understand why I play them or what I see in them. Her fovourite comment is "Why do you always have to be killing things?" which is not strictly true as I have many games with no fighting at all plus, I have explained that when the Zombie apocalypse comes I'll be well trained and ready but, that doesn't seem to help.

Perhaps, with us guys trying to get our partners interested is just an effort to get our hobby accepted as a valid pastime and not a silly waste of time and money when there are always more important things to do and buy, our ladies do not seem to appreciate that at least it keeps us off the streets.

If there are any ladies on this blog I would be interested to hear their views.
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RighteousNixon: I have the exact opposite scenario as I am literally surrounded by female gamers (my family is like 80% female, going back like 3 generations) and most of them are gamers. On top of that, my wife is as big of a gamer as I have ever been. Its uncanny how similar our beginning years were in regards to gaming. Like me, she owned an Intellivsion and not an Atari 2600. She also had the same computers I did (Commodore 64, Commodore 128, Amiga 500 Etc.). It really is uncanny just how similar a path we took in regards to gaming.

I think you would be shocked by the numbers coming out of the gaming industry. According to ESA's 2013 demographic study, 55% of gamers are male and 45% are female. That's means female gamers are just 5% away from being an even split in the gaming market.

Here are some other interesting tidbits based on ESA's 2011 demographic study.

* 58% of all Americans play Videogames

* There are an average of 2 gamers in each game playing US household.

* The average U.S. household owns at least one game dedicated console, PC or Smartphone.

* 51% of U.S. households own a dedicated game console, and those that do own an average of two.

* The average age of game players is 30 years.

* Women 18 and older represent a significantly greater portion of the game playing population (31%) than boys age 17 and younger (19%).

* Average age of the most frequent game purchaser is 35.

* Of the most frequent game purchasers, 54% are male and 46% are female.

* 43% of gamers believe that video games give them the most value for their money, compared with DVD's, Music, or going to the movies.

* Gamers who are playing more video games today than they did 3 years ago are spending, on average, 49% less time watching TV, 44% less time watching movies at home, and 47% less time going to the movies.

* Gamers who own a dedicated game console use them for other entertainment media, in addition to playing games, 42% use them to watch movies, 22% use them to listen to music, 19% use them to watch TV shows, and 5% use them to watch live content.

* 62% of gamers play games with others, either in person or online.

* 32% of gamers play social games.

* Average number of years gamers have been playing games - 13 years.

* Average number of years adult gamers have been playing games - 15 years (males average 17, females 13)

Here is the full report in case anyone is interested in reading it. There is a lot of interesting info in there.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2013.pdf
Tell that to the game designers who won't do anything in case they offend the delicate sensibilities of their male gamers. I mean what, do those devs think a guy's gonna keel over if the female character wears some decent armour for once? Honestly. Pandering to male entitlement is offensive to everybody.
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amarokster: Games I was planning on buying:
Myst

Games I actually bought:

Anodyne
Tales of Monkey Island
Theme Hospital
Don't Starve
Witcher 2 (can't even play on my crappy computer, so I'm not sure why I bought it, lol. Just to torment myself :( )
System Shock 2
Jade Empire

Hhmmm... :S

The good news is that I have so many new games I don't think I'll be tempted by any upcoming Christmas sales!
Myst is more a chore than a game, so you did well there.

I can't' stand the Myst games.
I´ve been a gamer for almost my whole life, I remember the time when people who played games where called "nerds" and now it´s quite the opposite. I read posts on forums that shows how little some knows about the people that play games. Some says Nintendo are only for kids (I guess those totally missed the Wii game Madworld) others says The Sims are only for women and so on.

If you get beaten by a woman she must be man since men are more skilled with games. It´s sad that there still are people that thinks this is true.
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don2712: I have been wondering how many female participants there were in this promo, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of games written to interest female players, they seem to be almost exclusively written by men for men.

I've tried to get my wife interested in video games without any success, she can't understand why I play them or what I see in them. Her fovourite comment is "Why do you always have to be killing things?" which is not strictly true as I have many games with no fighting at all plus, I have explained that when the Zombie apocalypse comes I'll be well trained and ready but, that doesn't seem to help.

Perhaps, with us guys trying to get our partners interested is just an effort to get our hobby accepted as a valid pastime and not a silly waste of time and money when there are always more important things to do and buy, our ladies do not seem to appreciate that at least it keeps us off the streets.

If there are any ladies on this blog I would be interested to hear their views.
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Laulajatar: I'm a big fan of RPGs and from where I started (written role playing games and an Elder Scrolls community) there seemed to be equally many female and male players/members. I never lie about my gender, if someone asks I answer but if someone I don't know just assumes something, I neither care nor correct him.

I don't think I'll (or the female gamers I know) ever need a game made "for female players". Just GOOD games, maybe with some nice little flowers to pick (so we can make potions of them to cast more powerful fireballs to burn down all our enemies :P)

Funny thing is, I always imagine it hard to find a boyfriend one day who accepts my gaming habit :D

Oh, and the Zombie apocalypse? I'll just get eaten.
I enjoy RPG's and am always buying them but, for some reason I'm just not very good at them perhaps, my attention span is too short to absorb enough information to play them well, I always just want to play the game without having to read and remember 30 pages of instructions however, I can handle RPG board games ok maybe the scale, tactility and verbal interchange of a board game just suits me better.