I would say it is, yes. I post the occasional observation or joke about (the lack of) progress here. For some odd reason jamotide wanted to resurrect and old argument and so here were are but not for long on that subject hopefully. It was old news over a year ago.

There is a legitimate reason, to make fun of you. You can't just be this wrong here and make such a huge fuss about it without being reminded about it once in a while.
Yes, he insulted you and he made alot of jokes about how gullible you are because you took the whole NSA DRM Superdemo secret literally. He probably laughed alot about you,too. Don't make me dig it up, because I will. This must have really hit you hard that you selectively chose to forget it!
Also, incredible that you still think it was right of you to harrass the people who shared the public superdemo link.

It's reasonably safe, indeed. The only sane reason to follow the whole "saga" is for the drama and laughs. Extra funny when Cleve pops up and posts a caustic reply to some detractor or adversary. :)
The guy is genuinely witty and it's a pleasure to read his ramblings. So if you leave logic at the door, you can enjoy the ride.

The quote I listed above where he promised the superdemo to pledges only predated all of the above, including his strange comments about the superdemo when he posted the link. Prior to that, he had explicitly indicated it was for pledges only. This was why I thought his joking about sharing the link was just Cleve being Cleve. it was not a stretch to take that as a joke given how often he says ridiculous things. The fact is, he did promise it to pledges only prior to the link ever going up. You can find that text I quoted on the first Indiegogo comments and see the context I am talking about. So there was nothing autistic about presuming he'd told the truth at the time. Of course, all became clear after this and I know well now not to believe a thing he says.

So as much as you crave an excuse to keep dumping your hate over nothing, you don't have one. I wasn't wrong but you are. What is more, the argument was originally between crosmando and myself. Neither he nor I care about this for a very long time. He didn't care what I thought about it back then. As I recall, for some odd reason it was you who was butthurt by this stuff beyond belief but I think that is just because you relish any opportunity to give someone a hard time online. I get the impression that you have issues and should seek counseling to help you understand this behavior in yourself, why you are so miserable and hopefully come to feel better in the end such that you no longer feel a need to behave in this way toward others.

At some point civil people agree to disagree jamotide. The question is, are you civil or not?
I would agree entirely with that at this point. At the time I pledged to the first campaign, I knew very little of Cleve's storied past. For the most part it's been a very entertaining ride since.

It is one thing to argue various views on a given topic. It is quite another to repeatedly make personal attacks on any user of this forum jamotide, going so far as to continue them a year and a half after the fact.

I think we need to agree to disagree about this and move on.

And I'm inclined to agree (I actually found his IGG pitch videos surprisingly amusing), except that the entertainment is coming at the expense of consumers who gave him their money in good faith. In any case, at least you've been good natured enough to take it in stride.

I know he promised that and I also saw the obvious jokes when he posted the PUBLIC link that many newssites shared to his delight. You were the only one who took that stuff seriously. But instead of just saying "oops" you turned it into a huge issue which resulted in alot of fun for everyone.Thanks!

lool you could not have been wronger! Everyone saw that, that is why you edited all your offending posts from that time!

Disagree about what?? And what personal attacks, I am just telling you what you wrote! I am not insulting you any other way.

Please make me quote some old posts from that time, I saved some of the ones you edited, too! :D

So he's deserving public shaming, done by you and yourself only, years after the incident, for taking someone serious... yes, you have issues. Maybe you should talk with some professionals about your crusader complex.

About different opinions / point of views. And if you fail to see your personal attacks, you're beyond help.

@dirtyharry50 - let him keep wetting his own pants again and again. Simply ignore his "contributions" to the topic at hand, as everyone else does.

Thank you. You're right. I think I need to stop feeding the troll.

Your 'observations and jokes' just look like butthurt, and all this thread does is serve to remind us that you were gullible and now you're bitter about it.

If I were you I'd let it go and try to regain some dignity.

Don't be too joyous, Siannah is just like me, she just defends you here, because we had a heated argument here some years ago where I totally destroyed her (about level scaling, she loves it), and I guess she felt this is the right time for payback!
Normally I would address her post in detail, but this is too obvious to take seriously. Of course Mister Gullible eats it up immediatly ;)

You see, this is exactly the opposite. I don't care about this argument we had back then - I won't even argue you destroying me, no matter how much I'd see that differently. As much as I don't care about the details between you and dirtyharry50 and who's right or not.

But you feeling the need to call him out on it, again and again, even in threads not even remotely related? You may see this as deserved as much as you want, but some would probably call it stalking or, as I did, having issues.

... and yes, I'm totally aware you'll turn THAT one around and use it against me - call it fighting fire with fire. Fact remains, you don't achieve anything with your behavior except harrassing someone. Repeatedly. And any third party reading it, should be aware about that. :)

Edit: no matter what or how you reply, it's an automatic dev/null

See, if you would care about the details, you would see this reminder is very closely related to the thread, and I think you would even be a bit embarrased. Also you are missing a ton of fun!

When I argue and whinge like this in the Mafia threads, it's juvenile and pedantic and embarrassing... but that's the intention of the game and how to play it.

When you guys do it in this thread... it's just juvenile and pedantic and embarrassing.

You misinterpret my remarks. I'm not butthurt at all and no more gullible than anyone else that takes a shot on a crowd funded game. I knew very well when I pledged to this thing it was a gamble and I decided to go ahead and take it. It's the one and only time I've ever done this actually and that isn't because of this experience in particular but simply because I'm not usually inclined to gamble. It doesn't hurt much though to take a shot once in a while, win or lose. In this case, plenty wound up being won even without a game to show for it given how entertaining the epic thread about Cleve is.

I haven't lost any dignity over a computer game that I'd need to regain.

If that is all this thread serves and you know it, why then would you come here? I didn't start this thread you know nor have I written the most posts in it either. It's about this game and by extension its creator and I see no harm in sharing updates and the humor of yet more promises not kept, etc. It's funny when the guy does it over and over and over.