Narakir: Could we talk about the game itself for a change ? I believed for a second I was in the youtube comment section and not very surprised to see a Mac-fanboy feeling so entitled about something.

If the creator can get more people to try this, I'm pretty sure he'll get the attention he deserves, especially if he keeps his promises. I've never seen such a huge content for a game, its looks so rich and deep, The only downside for me is the quite slow combat, the game also desperately needs an actual manual.

dirtyharry50: Sorry, I don't think anybody else in the world is actually playing Grimoire seriously except for those people.

Crosmando: Ehhh, well Cleve has always been like that. This is the same game who claimed that in the 90's he worked on a secret Sir-Tech project in Australia to make Wizardry 8, where he was forced to work for starvation wages for the project lead who was a deviant homosexual and wasted the development money to recruit street kids as prostitutes, before submitting himself to a mental institute. Also something about having to walk through waist-deep piles of dildos and said homosexual lead dev forcing him to put monsters into the game that looked like human genitalia.

The guy constantly mixes strange and outrageous things in with what he says, it's his online persona. If you can't ignore all the crap he says on the internet enough to enjoy a computer game he happened to make I guess that's it.

filipstamate: Actually, all that is true. More or less and/or exaggerated, but true nonetheless.
Required reading: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/why-did-sir-tech-go-bankrupt-ebay-auction.53695/

Oh, it's from the RPG Codex, those people that dare play games because they're games, not because they're in love with the creator or for some other political agenda. I know, horrible people.

Crosmando: Ehhh, well Cleve has always been like that. This is the same game who claimed that in the 90's he worked on a secret Sir-Tech project in Australia to make Wizardry 8, where he was forced to work for starvation wages for the project lead who was a deviant homosexual and wasted the development money to recruit street kids as prostitutes, before submitting himself to a mental institute. Also something about having to walk through waist-deep piles of dildos and said homosexual lead dev forcing him to put monsters into the game that looked like human genitalia.

The guy constantly mixes strange and outrageous things in with what he says, it's his online persona. If you can't ignore all the crap he says on the internet enough to enjoy a computer game he happened to make I guess that's it.

dirtyharry50: In any case, there is no issue now whatsoever with the link being posted here or anywhere else because the developer sanctions it. What may be an issue for some backers such as myself is that he lied to us and then called us autistic (which is a really inappropriate use of that term) for being foolish enough to believe him.

jamotide: Who are these "us" you keep mentioning? Let's face it, it's YOU!

Seriously, how great is this? The guy who's PUBLIC DEMO you so galantly (more like rudely) defended here from all us evil THIEVES insults you worse than anyone else did for being utterly wrong!

Can't remember a flamewar that resolved so quickly and clearly! But yet... chances for an apology? ZILCH!