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Posted July 12, 2021
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Hey Guys,

is Sleeping Dogs Definitve Edition now blocked in Germany?
Yet another game not avaiable because of what? Why did GoG do this?
I still have it in my Wishlist though, but what the hell is going on here?

Thought the game was USK 18 / PEGI 18 already?

Are we forced to use VPNs now to get the games we want on GoG?
(yes i know that would break the TOS, but what choice one has?)

Do you GoG guys even care / read what ppl write here?

So long


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BTW GoG Developers, you folks realize that GEOBLOCKING is outlawed by EU right?
You know you break EU Law by GEOBLOCKING games, do you? (Valve does the same btw)
Post edited July 12, 2021 by GHOSTMD
This question / problem has been solved by InfraSupermanimage
Posted July 12, 2021
The Definitive Edition is still officially blacklisted In Germany.

Also only "unjustified" geoblocking is against the law. The German youth protection system might be crazy, but it's still a "justification".
Posted July 12, 2021
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GHOSTMD: Yet another game not avaiable because of what? Why did GoG do this?
I still have it in my Wishlist though, but what the hell is going on here?
The game is still on the BPJM's index. GOG apparently didn't realize this at first, and so the game was available to Germans for a short time.
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GHOSTMD: Thought the game was USK 18 / PEGI 18 already?
PEGI ratings are meaningless in Germany and only the heavily censored version of Sleeping Dogs' original release had a USK 18 rating.
The Definitive Edition was always uncensored and Square-Enix never even gave it an official German release. They could probably get it off the index if they tried, but that would require effort and money; and SE probably doesn't consider that endeavour worthwhile.
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GHOSTMD: PS:
BTW GoG Developers, you folks realize that GEOBLOCKING is outlawed by EU right?
You know you break EU Law by GEOBLOCKING games, do you? (Valve does the same btw)
I think that only applies if providing the content in question does not break an individual country's laws. Selling indexed games to Germans without any kind of officially sanctioned age verification would do exactly that.
Post edited July 12, 2021 by InfraSuperman
Posted July 12, 2021
looks like gog just follows the german laws
i dont get how gog is any fault in this
maybe vote for freedom next time
or just come to Hungary , it isnt banned to buy these games here :)
Post edited July 12, 2021 by Orkhepaj
Posted July 12, 2021
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Orkhepaj: maybe vote for freedom next time
No such thing in Germany. Just different flavors of oppression.
Posted July 12, 2021
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Orkhepaj: maybe vote for freedom next time
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fronzelneekburm: No such thing in Germany. Just different flavors of oppression.
that's sad, :( thought they are freer than us
now i dont even want to go there , maybe they have banned wh40k too or something
Posted July 12, 2021
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fronzelneekburm: No such thing in Germany. Just different flavors of oppression.
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Orkhepaj: that's sad, :( thought they are freer than us
now i dont even want to go there , maybe they have banned wh40k too or something
Just to make one thing clear. Sleeping Dogs and mostly every other game (with only a few exceptions) is NOT banned in Germany. It simply is not allowed to be advertized or to be sold to underage persons. Even IF a game would be "banned" you still are allowed to own it - in that case it just is not allowed to be sold anymore.

The reason for this is "youth protection" and no matter who you would vote for ... nobody would dare to change those laws and therefore "endanger" the youth.
Post edited July 12, 2021 by MarkoH01
Posted July 12, 2021
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MarkoH01:
I guess the reason for banning Sleeping Dogs is they're worried young, impressionable youth will see the game and want to become gangsters in Hong Kong?
Posted July 12, 2021
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MarkoH01:
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ShadowWulfe: I guess the reason for banning Sleeping Dogs is they're worried young, impressionable youth will see the game and want to become gangsters in Hong Kong?
The reason in most cases is much more simple. Whenever violence would give the player and advantage those youth protectors are scared that children might think that being violent would be a good way to win ... as the game showed. So in most cases it is a moral/ethic they want to keep. Violence is bad - especially unnnecessary violence.
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ShadowWulfe: I guess the reason for banning Sleeping Dogs is they're worried young, impressionable youth will see the game and want to become gangsters in Hong Kong?
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MarkoH01: The reason in most cases is much more simple. Whenever violence would give the player and advantage those youth protectors are scared that children might think that being violent would be a good way to win ... as the game showed. So in most cases it is a moral/ethic they want to keep. Violence is bad - especially unnnecessary violence.
so they want to indoctrinate the children?:O
violence isnt bad , just like a knife or a gun isnt bad
Posted July 12, 2021
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MarkoH01:
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ShadowWulfe: I guess the reason for banning Sleeping Dogs is they're worried young, impressionable youth will see the game and want to become gangsters in Hong Kong?
Well, there is a version that's approved for public sale in Germany and the only difference is that the German version removes about a dozen or so finishing moves (including cartoon silliness like impaling someone on a swordfish).

Also, to elaborate on Marko's post: Yes, the uncut version indeed is not banned. However on Steam it is more heavily restricted (at the behest of Squeenix) than most games that are *actually* banned, to the point where you can't even redeem a foreign key using a German account. So while strictly speaking it isn't banned, the way the non-ban is implemented constitutes a de facto ban.
Posted July 12, 2021
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fronzelneekburm: So while strictly speaking it isn't banned, the way the non-ban is implemented constitutes a de facto ban.
But as you said - that's Steams and Square Enix' decision and therefore at least this one can't be blamed on decisions made by German institutions like the BPjM. Germany does not ban games (in most cases) that's what I wanted to say. This is still not China after all.
Post edited July 12, 2021 by MarkoH01
Posted July 12, 2021
If it goes for the super low sale price again, I can gift you it. I feel the region lock/regional pricing pain.
I think it was like 3 bucks.
Posted July 12, 2021
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pkk234: If it goes for the super low sale price again, I can gift you it. I feel the region lock/regional pricing pain.
I think it was like 3 bucks.
thx
Posted July 12, 2021
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MarkoH01: Germany does not ban games (in most cases) that's what I wanted to say. This is still not China after all.
Ehhh... let's not go there. The selection is considerably larger on the gog's Chinese storefront than the German storefront and I don't buy into the rather flawed logic of "Germany doesn't ban games, except when it does" either.
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