He's closer to presidency than you and there is still an element of testing in this. I'm quite confident that blotunga is Liberal. But if I'm wrong I would like to know before it is his turn to be president. Also, not based on any facts or actual observations, I would put him a little bit higher on the 'probably liberal' scale. I can't really put a finger on why since you both make sensible arguments and have acted liberal so far. ... Maybe it's just a leftover of my dislike of the 'random.org' nomination of Joe. *shrug* Sorry, if that doesn't make sense.

I voted yes for your government, but now I'm thinking about changing it and skipping to blotunga.

Reason: If an F is passed I'd rather blotunga does the investigation.
Reason: blotunga is already "tied" to Pooka. If blotunga turns fascists then definitely Pooka is too. And if Pooka turns fascist, then blotunga probably though no 100% is too. Now, forcing blotunga to do the investigation means he'll have to tie a third person to them. If blotunga is fascist he'd be put in a difficult spot. He'd either have to clear a liberal, clear a fellow fascist and risk all three going down, falsely accuse a liberal and risk him and Pooka going down or accuse a fellow fascist in a daring but risky attempt to get lib points. Either option is actually good for Lib. And if blotunga is liberal we get real investigation results, which is good too.

@Lift: so if you get FFF (or get LFF but blotunga turns fascist), whom do you plan to investigate?

The or part won't happen. If I get a L, I'll elect it.

As for voting down Lift, after that how would we go on (after my gvt?). Joe is about as confirmed as lift (maybe even less), plus he can bury some L because it will be after the reshuffle.
This is why I wouldn't mind a Lift/me first. After the shuffle I should have a chance to get my hand on a L.

He could petition congress for five billion dollars to build an L.

Technically Lift could investigate pooka in case he passes me 3F. It might shed some clarity, though probably joe would be a better target.

CURRENT PROPOSED GOVERNMENT
President: Liftin' Rasil and the Raisin' Hell Band (Lifthrasil)
Chancellor: The Mighty Blotunga (blotunga)

Please PM me your yes/no votes on whether you wish for this setup or not. There must be a majority "yes" for this to pass.

40% is a big chance!

And yeah - the bigger chance of getting No L, the better chance to make an L disappear without getting consequence - at other times, an F president might have to pass over an L for whatever reason or other. There's no reason why they would pass it here. I want to elect someone who I'm most confident isn't going to discard if it turns up.

And yeah, I hadn't thought about investigation (again!) but it's a good point, I'd trust investigation to blotunga more than lifth, and blotunga investigating has more intrigue whatwith pooka.

Let's see how do go the votes

If I get an LFF, the passing of LF will be an implicit test. If I get FFF, the obvious choices would be to investigate either Pooka or blotunga to check for shenanigans and mutual Fascist 'confirmation'. Or to investigate Joe or you, because you two are candidates for future governments. Currently I favour a Joe investigation, because he feels least Liberal out of our 'assumed liberal' block.

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@Zeo do we get an investigation or choose government with out next fascist policy?

I think you've made a mistake, I think we don't get an investigation this time round. I think it's choosing the next President instead.

I think there's a decent chance that Lift maybe Hitler, if he's in power as President he has to pass L or lose future chancellorship.

So who do we want as President if we can pick anyone, which will be Lift's choice. For me it's ZFR or SPF because both passed Liberal policy when it would of hurt Fascist chances, this is good. It's also good SPF tested ZFR and was honest about receiving 2 L cards. I think if he was Scum, he lies and says he discarded 1 F card to make himself appear better. What do you think @Lift Personally I'd pick myself as I know for sure I'm Liberal. This would also confirm Lift is not Hitler as Hitler doesn't like being President.

He gets an investigation if a F is passed: https://imgur.com/2CEy8Me

look here - https://i.imgur.com/2CEy8Me.jpg

the orange panel shows what powers are activated, the next slot is investigation.

We're going Investigation, Investigation, Bonus Election, Exeggcute, Exeggcute/Veto, Death.

I think we're doing house rules for the forum version, but I'm not sure.

Yep. We're not yet in the 'choose the next president and be very careful about chancellorships afterwards' territory. But actually I hope that I DON'T get an investigation. If no one lied about the cards drawn so far, we have a good chance of enacting the fourth liberal policy this round.

@Scene: I don't understand your last sentence. How would picking you confirm that I'm not Hitler? Not that I'll be able to pick anyone, but I don't understand your logic.

Sorry I meant picking yourself. As in I personally would pick myself, knowing I'm the only confirmed Liberal player. So if you are Liberal perhaps it makes sense to do just that.

The odds of you drawing an L card maybe 0%, if Pooka is Fascist. Do you read Pooka as Lib or Scum? That question to everyone, because if Pooka is Scum I personally don't want a Blotunga gov. But the only way to test it, is to test Blotunga here.

If Lift and Blotunga pass L, that confirms Lift, Blotunga and by default Pooka. If an F policy is a dispute we have a problem but information.

Ofcourse there is 40% chance you will get FFF even if 1 Liberal Card is left. Are those odds correct? I haven't bothered checking them.

Yes, it's 40% chance of FFF if nobody buried extra L's. As for Pooka, it's hard to get a read, but since he confirmed me, I tend to lean towards L in his case. If there is a dispute between me and Lift, then Lift is 100% scum and his investigation will be also moot. But then it would mean just 2 more scum to worry about.