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blotunga: My fellow liberals, you do realize that it's likely that pooka is scum (someone has to be) and that he probably will discredit Lift? I would've preferred a tested president instead of an unknown.
I know but pooka seemed sad at the idea. I promise I'll skip over you to make up for it.
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blotunga: I would've preferred a tested president instead of an unknown.
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rtcvb32: The testing phase is over, too high a chance for FFL and FFF.

I've given my thoughts and my laid out plan of who i would elect and why.
Yes, but Pooka is a bad idea as a president. Will you vote for a lift president if he now passes a F?
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ZFR: Thoughts?
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rtcvb32: Well i think there's a ~75% chance that no one that has been in government so far has been Fascist. So... Could start re-electing those 6 people to try and push the last liberal policies..
I'd like to see the calculations for these odds. Weren't you the one that said fascists would pass liberal policy in the early going?

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blotunga: My fellow liberals, you do realize that it's likely that pooka is scum (someone has to be) and that he probably will discredit Lift? I would've preferred a tested president instead of an unknown.
Likely Scum or 40% chance? It's a slight gamble sure, but we're at a stage of 66% chance of FFF anyway;. At 66% chance of FFF I'm in favour of testing new government because there's little conclusions to be pulled from a Facist Policy being passed.

For me I'm not sure Lift loses town points if Pooka has a conflict with him. Because it's not likely Pooka pulls an L Card anyway - 33%
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rtcvb32: Well i think there's a ~75% chance that no one that has been in government so far has been Fascist. So... Could start re-electing those 6 people to try and push the last liberal policies..
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supplementscene: I'd like to see the calculations for these odds. Weren't you the one that said fascists would pass liberal policy in the early going?

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blotunga: My fellow liberals, you do realize that it's likely that pooka is scum (someone has to be) and that he probably will discredit Lift? I would've preferred a tested president instead of an unknown.
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supplementscene: Likely Scum or 40% chance? It's a slight gamble sure, but we're at a stage of 66% chance of FFF anyway;. At 66% chance of FFF I'm in favour of testing new government because there's little conclusions to be pulled from a Facist Policy being passed.

For me I'm not sure Lift loses town points if Pooka has a conflict with him. Because it's not likely Pooka pulls an L Card anyway - 33%
Yes, but what if against the odds he pulls a L and burries it? Lift would've most likely passed it on.
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Lifthrasil: I'm still very tied up at the conference I'm at. I will hardly have time to read or post until Friday evening. But on Saturday look to the east, to my coming.
Will you be bringing the rest of Rohan with you?


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blotunga: My fellow liberals, you do realize that it's likely that pooka is scum (someone has to be) and that he probably will discredit Lift? I would've preferred a tested president instead of an unknown.
What would you think of Lift if he was president and got three F cards and had to pass two of them along to whoever his chancellor was? Is your main concern that Pooka might not pass a L card if he gets it? At the point we are at now the chances that whoever is in office the next two turns is going to look bad just from the odds, but my hope is a L gets passed and we are up 4-1 by the end of the round and that about kills the chances of the fascists winning. I can't see a sweep happening, but that would be awesome if it did.
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blotunga: My fellow liberals, you do realize that it's likely that pooka is scum (someone has to be) and that he probably will discredit Lift? I would've preferred a tested president instead of an unknown.
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JoeSapphire: I know but pooka seemed sad at the idea. I promise I'll skip over you to make up for it.
Just don't you dare skip me or else I'll get mad.



And invade Poland.
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supplementscene: I'd like to see the calculations for these odds. Weren't you the one that said fascists would pass liberal policy in the early going?

Likely Scum or 40% chance? It's a slight gamble sure, but we're at a stage of 66% chance of FFF anyway;. At 66% chance of FFF I'm in favour of testing new government because there's little conclusions to be pulled from a Facist Policy being passed.

For me I'm not sure Lift loses town points if Pooka has a conflict with him. Because it's not likely Pooka pulls an L Card anyway - 33%
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blotunga: Yes, but what if against the odds he pulls a L and burries it? Lift would've most likely passed it on.
Do you think if Lift was Fascist he'd have passed Liberal or Fascist policy?
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blotunga: Yes, but what if against the odds he pulls a L and burries it? Lift would've most likely passed it on.
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supplementscene: Do you think if Lift was Fascist he'd have passed Liberal or Fascist policy?
At this point lift seems a likely L. Also I would trust his investigation more than Pooka's. Btw are we getting a policy soon.
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supplementscene: Do you think if Lift was Fascist he'd have passed Liberal or Fascist policy?
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blotunga: At this point lift seems a likely L. Also I would trust his investigation more than Pooka's. Btw are we getting a policy soon.
That didn't really answer my question. If Lift is Fascist (not saying he is) does he pass L or F when Trent passes him LF? If he passes L he gets Liberal credit and is a trusted president.

If he passes L he can discredit Trent who would almost certainly Liberal. Because it makes no sense nominating a fascist if you were fascist, a fascist would only ever nominate a Liberal or Hitler.

So if Trent is Liberal or Hitler, Lift's alignment can be anything because that pick is pot luck.

If Trent is Scum, Lift can only be Liberal or Hitler.
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rtcvb32: Well i think there's a ~75% chance that no one that has been in government so far has been Fascist. So... Could start re-electing those 6 people to try and push the last liberal policies..
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supplementscene: I'd like to see the calculations for these odds. Weren't you the one that said fascists would pass liberal policy in the early going?
Correct, i did say that. And i stand by that (That L's would pass).

The ~75% is a guess, seeing as 7/10 are liberals and half of the table has been in government to this point.

The actual math (70% ^ 5) says it's 16.8%, but gut feeling can't be measured as numbers in the equation.

Regardless, it's only now after 3 L's are in place that fascists would really work together or probably even elect eachother.
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rtcvb32: Correct, i did say that. And i stand by that (That L's would pass).

The ~75% is a guess, seeing as 7/10 are liberals and half of the table has been in government to this point.

The actual math (70% ^ 5) says it's 16.8%, but gut feeling can't be measured as numbers in the equation.

Regardless, it's only now after 3 L's are in place that fascists would really work together or probably even elect eachother.
Uhhh... there are only 6 liberals in the game if we're playing it according to the rules Zeo posted.
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SirPrimalform: Uhhh... there are only 6 liberals in the game if we're playing it according to the rules Zeo posted.
6? I thought there were 7.

That completely changes things. It's more or less 50/50 at that point.
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rtcvb32: 6? I thought there were 7.

That completely changes things. It's more or less 50/50 at that point.
10-(3F+H)=6
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SirPrimalform: 10-(3F+H)=6
Yes i see that now.

Having rewatched TB's old streams of Secret Hitler (when we started), there was never more than 2+H. That's probably where i was thrown off on the player count.
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rtcvb32: Yes i see that now.

Having rewatched TB's old streams of Secret Hitler (when we started), there was never more than 2+H. That's probably where i was thrown off on the player count.
It's also a good LAMISL "mistake" to make. :P