The realtime aspect is what I'm used to, more like. As Pooka mentioned before, my original "it takes 45 minutes" thing was off, I played some games with him a while back and we did multiple in the span of an hour. Plus, it's a bit of a different strategy when you can't analyze rows of text and sometimes just being the noisiest will work depending on the crowd.

Check your mail or something, you should find an invite for something. Participate in it, maybe it's the Secret Hitler game! A special one at that, one where Hitler doesn't even know he's Hitler!

Okay, seriously before I start delving into gibberish, if you want the Discord server invite link, let me know. If you're going to host your own way, let me in on it.

Though obviously I still do want to have a longer, forum game like this one for a very good reason: the stakes are higher as there is more than enough room to think every single move and reread them several times.
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I literally just wanted to not have the game held up on a government everyone knew would be voted down. So if scene didn't attain the chancellorship, I would have at least preferred to return home to Lift's government as soon as possible.

Also, if you don't mind me taking up a bit of your time; what did you think of my play now that everything makes sense? Was it good? Sloppy?

I don't agree with you here. Yes, it does take time, but personally I don't find it worse than a regular mafia game. I just treat it like chess by correspondence, you make your move and you wait. Sure real time SH has its moments, but so does being able to analyze walls of text without hurrying.

I wouldn't mind seeing another Secret Hitler game here again some time in the future.
I don't know what Discord is, but sure send me a link. If I don't like it I'll just add it to my link collection.

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It's not so much the time scale (I'm used to months long games of mafia after all), I think more of the pace. Even in the longest games of mafia there was never a point where I felt like I had nothing to say. Maybe SH just isn't for me.

OK. I see what you mean. Still, for me it's not a problem. I don't mind the wait.

You did good. Maybe you got an easier start than we would have given Carr at that stage of the game, but you gave the impression that you were an interested participant in the game, and I variously believed I could trust you. As ZFR put it, you came across as intelligent enough to not make a stupid mistake, but not so intelligent that you would think one move ahead in the game.



Is the proposal to play a quick game but still with writing? I'd assumed a game over microphones so that you can get some sense of who's lying by signals and that. Is such a thing ever done?

I might join in a real-time game at some point and see how I find that.

Yes, I think you might get the same problem with no-cardflip versions of mafia. As the game goes on you don't learn anything so it's never easy to know what to do. A small amount of people hold all the information and there's no way to verify it.

And now I know what this game looks like when the fascists pave the way to victory. Well played, team fascists.

I have to agree with SirPrimalform, Secret Hitler doesn't really work as a forum game. Don't know if it's just my impression, but it seemed to drag more than the first iteration, perhaps because there were more lurky players this time? Which made JoeSapphire's attempts to figure out things and sway people more difficult and desperate. No offence to everyone else, but JoeSapphire's play was pretty much what kept me following this game for the last 2-3 weeks.


Ah, you must have forgotten what scum!Lifthrasil looks/plays like, especially in a setup with no reveals. But he managed to fool ZFR, so well played.

I thought trentonlf was fascist the moment he got on supplementscene's case (basically his first post, I think?).

supplementscene felt off the whole game - too cooperative, too reasonable, no conflicts, no spats, nothing; in hindsight, it should have rang a bell that he's the Secret Hitler, but I'll admit that I got caught in wondering if he were turning a new leaf in his forum mafia career. It sure was an eye-opener regarding what he's able to pull, so well done, I'll keep my eye on you in future games.

Indeed it is, though Pooka is currently trying to organize through writing. Games with mics and such happen fairly infrequently depending on when we can get the players together.

Kudos to Team Fascist, well played by each one of you! In all honesty, the wife thought Scene and Lift might be "playing against expectations". We mostly thought Joe was Liberal until Joe's post where he told ZFR, "I know you're my Friend." At that point and as Joe intensified we both wondered if that was a 'tell' that Joe was actually the H-man trying to let ZFR know that he had figured out ZFR was Fascist. ZFR's seeming control of the game without much resistance and refusal to shoot Joe played into this as well and Scene and Lift used that timeframe to start looking less suspicious to us. I have to say Trent was the one we didn't suspect, and shooting ZFR had us clapping with a "Bravo! Well played!" A slow start, but very entertaining by the end.

Oh, and blotunga ... we believed in you! :)

Kudos also to the Puzzlemaster and Bookwyrm for the entertaining flavor posts. :)

Im surprised so many people watchdd this.

Did zeo make an observer threat?

An observer threaT? Well, not to my knowledge ... at least not directly. :p
Jokes aside, we were not among the sign-up 'observers' so I don't know if there was an actual observer thread.

The decision fell when you mentioned Scene as second choice to me. After you had already brought the argument 'Scene can't possibly be Hitler' into play, I knew we had a chance of winning the Hitler-way. So I had to stay in your good graces to be able to manipulate you - and by extension the other Liberals, since you were the leader of the pack. Apart from Joe of course who knew I was Fascist.
My reasoning was, that if I pass F, you would kill me and trust Joe and the game would be lost for the Fascists. So I had to risk the 4-th L and try to pave the way for a Scene chancellorship. I had expected trent to nominate Scene and I think that would have gone through. But then he selected me. But in the end it worked too. :-)
I buried an L.