I didn't look back through your old posts, but maybe you should. Take note of the people being suggested for future governments not just by you, but also by others. I recall a lot of suggestions toward Brasas and Scene and a couple suggesting Dedo. It's funny how you ask that question yet most of your suspected fascists have never been mentioned for a part in government.

Of course your "that can't be the answer" certainly doesn't make me trust you any more.

No. If you were Hitler you didn't set it up and cook all this scheme in advance. You just had to make the best play as each decision came along and it all amounted to this. First government with scene? Best decision as Hitler to pass L. Government with Lift? Best decision as Hitler to pass L. Government with Brasas? I've already shown that the better decision as Hitler is to pass L.

Look at tit this way, if you're completely busted/exposed, then 3-2 means you're 4 policies away from winning. If on the other hand you're practically sure Hitler can be elected chancellor, then 4-1 you're only 2 policies away (and can get those more easily, if fascists are the "likely liberals" ones).

Sorry, but for someone who read all those guides, what strikes me odd about you is your purposeful insistence to refuse to acknowledge that Hitler would play as a "trusted liberal" until 3F are passed, but you keep repeating how you're completely clear. And there is all the little stuff. The fact that you somehow not once posted about the game ending next turn, but keep posting about next 2-3 governemnts (with the later ones including you as chancellor). Your "What??? What is this about blacklisting especially if I clear you?". Your incessant repeating how we must quickly cycle back to you and how you're most trusted. You vehemently not wanting to give the second investigation to anyone but you. Your "I know what you're doing, Brasas" , and then quickly forgetting about it 2 days later.

And you lashing out against anyone who questions anything about you. Soon as that happens that person becomes, as you yourself put it, "your enemy" and because of that, a non-liberal. Seriously? You don't see liberals having legitimate concerns.

I don't want to come this close only to lose. Not when we have easier ways to get that remaining 1 policy and win regardless. You, as a liberal, would of course want that remaining policy, even if you don't get to pass it as chancellor, right?

If i were Hitler I could avoid a chancellorship at any point /end of thread

Btw is there anyone who hasn't cleared Lift as liberal? I would like to know.

And will we continue with Lift president? That's my preference since if an L comes around we win or we find a fascist.

@Greek, you asked me if I thought I was a better choice for your investigation and to investigate me. When I agreed you went with your original choice after all. Why did you even ask if you already had your mind made up? Now you say you pretty much cleared me based on my previous actions so what was the point of that charade?

I went with the majority and I preferred the 99% chance of Lift being liberal because it was the most conservative option and it was imperative that I cleated someone as liberal at that point so that we have a base to work with. As you can see the usual people found every reason why Hitler would play the same way I played but don't even consider the chance that I am a liberal who did all the straight plays and always asked for the majority 's opinion with one exception where I wouldn't give away the second investigation. Hitler would be very stupid to put himself in a position where he would have to make it 3-0 or 4-1,he would stay out of it and let the rest of the fascists do their thing or even create conflicts by passing F. I asked you because I wanted to see who would support the idea of investigating you and there weren't enough people.

EDIT because I didn't explain it very well. I wanted you to speak up because that could make some people change their preference but the majority wanted to investigate Lift. It crossed my mind to take the initiative and go against the majority but I was afraid that me or the result wouldn't be trusted afterwards.

Btw if you are liberal you should get your point through and end the game with Lift and brasas if you don't trust me in a government, I don't see a better plan at the moment.

lol, yeah. As this game showed us, refusing it would not have been suspicious at all. Especially if everyone and their mother wanted you to be one. Clearly if you were Hitler, avoiding a chancellorship at any point would have been what you'd do.

You refused before passing an L. I could refuse after passing the first L with the legit excuse that we need to test/try more people.

Btw, you are on vacation, you come here after I post the investigation result and instead of commenting on the result which the most important event, you use your little time to pick on me. And you still haven't commented on the result. Have you cleared Lift, yes or no?

I haven't 'cleared' anyone as liberal.

I think there is a fairly strong chance he is liberal, but there is still a chance he is fascist (though far less than you).

Because just like in the you as Hitler scenario, they didn't have a choice. I know RWarehall says the fascists could have derailed your government over Lift's mention of Brasas but I don't think that would really have been enough to derail it. And the idea of a reasonably trusted player and an untested one was good, the fascists may have just not wanted to risk rocking the boat and blowing their own cover.

But he can't. Let's say Kusu or Blotunga is Hitler, they've stayed out of the way for most of the game. What would you say their chances of becoming chancellor is?

And creating conflict and passing Fs is a sure fire way to make sure he never becomes chancellor again, unless you've already passed a number of L policies. Just like you.

That's what I said, that they were forced to follow to avoid blowing their cover.

Right now, I have confirmed info that no one else has. The fascists relied on the flip of a coin to stay in the game since it was around 50-50 for me to draw a L. Examine this any way you like.

Ponder this then...
If what you say and think are true, your fascists did far worse...
They trusted a flip of the coin with Dedo/Scene at 66 or so percent...
Then Brasas/you
Then You/Lift.
And next likely Lift/Brasas again.

But somehow in your mind it makes sense that Dedo and Brasas can be trusted...

Because I guess hiding under cover means far more than trying to win the game...

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Any scenario that relies on so many coin flips should probably be ruled out. I can believe one, maybe two under the worst scenarios, but you have us believing it's 4 in a row! What are the odds! And even after you and Lift fail to pass a liberal policy (77.3% chance), we are supposed to listen to you for the next pairing. And when that fails (95.5% chance of an L), we are again supposed to follow your choice...

Or there is the simpler explanation that they know they have an ace up their sleeve and are calling the shots...

The same as yours actually (to become chancellor that is). The game kind of favors combinations from the first few compared to the last half of the table. Because the first president/chancellor combination got rotated often (not without good reason I might add), many players are kindof unknown (you, me, kusu). RWarehall and ZFR might post a bit more (due probably to more experience) and yet they are similarly mostly unknown, uncertain. As for the other 5, of course they could hide a fascist/Hitler.

I read old posts in order and reply whenever I can. Quick reply if on mobile, detailed reply if on laptop. Sometimes I reply to an older post only to later read on and find out the issue has been addressed already.
When I started replying to your HA post, I don't think your investigation result was out. If it was, I haven't read it yet. I remember my post appearing and seeing your investigation result appearing too as "5 minutes ago" or similar. Regardless, I find such LAMIST posts suspicious. Maybe it was just a joke, but the fact that you are getting so defensive about it makes me think.

I have commented on the result (post 976 - last paragraph). And your last question is not a yes/no one. If you're liberal, Lift is cleared, if not then no.

OK. We pretty much agree to pass my turn. So here's my nomination

I nominate dedoporno as my Chancellor