The point i was trying to make
he didnt actually have tanks
The tanks that came was orginally ordered to fire upon the parliment
The only reason it didnt happen is because Boris Yeltsin and some others managed to convince him otherwise
because the tank commander didnt simply wish to follow orders

and as i said before
i garantue you that some normal civillians know somone in the russian Army
Russian soldiers and russian commanders is not freindless and are not familyless and they are not robots
and i garantee you that there are probably some of these that dont agree with how things are runned currently

Emmm... Well, I am not the best historic ever, but it is Yeltsin who ordered tanks to shoot parlament. Please, use wikipedia instead of bbc, and confirm it, if I'm right. I hasn't slept for a long time and really lose my ability to analyze, so we can continue later, but first - can you read it?

Here's a link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis
It's too much, I know, but it is more informative. No offense, but BBC article is too... Poetic? Facts are facts, after all.

Just like Poland (the Commonwealth) invaded Moscow? Or just as Poland, together with Nazi Germany, divided Czechoslovakia?

In the west of Ukraine, torchlight processions in honor of the national hero Stepan Bandera have been organized for a long time. If you don’t know history yourself, ask your parents or grandparents how much Polish blood this man shed

Ok, migth be bad choice of words
and the possobility of the 13 Thirteen Colonies coudnt have ended up with a tyrant of a president.....

This will probably hurt some feelings on the forum
Trump was elected
his speach where he rallied people to march coud be understood as a attampt to coup
so there exist a possibility that even here , whoever thats in charge may be a Dictator

Way too much text in the wikepedia article
It talks about way too many points
but i migth take time to read the whole thing to try to find the event im thinking about

But i have a suspicion its the wrong article
And this article is thhe correct one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt

What speech? The one on January 6th? Was there a coup? Did people deposed Biden? Last time I checked Biden was still the US president.

There was a choice. For example, NATO could not approach the very borders of Russia. If a "defensive" alliance comes to your door, which has already invaded a bunch of countries, and recently openly called you an enemy in a number of its documents, it is rather difficult to calmly react to this. The main fault in this war lies with the United States. If they really wanted peace, they would say "Ok, Russia, we will not put our missiles near your territory, we will remove our nuclear weapons from Europe (which should not be there at all under the non-proliferation treaty). Let's sign an agreement, according to which we do not take the countries of Eastern Europe into NATO, and you officially guarantee their security". But instead, the US persisted in saying "You don't like that our weapons are getting closer and we can easily destroy most of your population? It's your problem, and we don't care". And European countries happily agreed with the US.
If Russia were to deploy a bunch of its weapons in Mexico and a number of countries to the south, how long would the US silently watch this?

No trided to depose biden
But there was the storming of the congress

Supose these has sucsedded and trump wasnt against it?
Or that trump had some military backing at the same time?

I don't know. You tell me - if Trump called for a coup, was backed by military, deposed Biden, and established himself a president once more, would you consider him a dictator? Do you think that such taking of power by force would be a good thing?

It's quite funny that people constantly expose Poland as an innocent victim, forgetting that before that, Poland, together with Germany, divided Czechoslovakia. And Britain, France and Italy helped them with this, hoping that this would be enough for them.
Yes, Hitler attacked Poland and it was bad. But this was not an attack on an innocent victim, but the eating of one predator by another, larger one.


By the way, where are the sanctions and worldwide condemnation against Armenia, which occupied 20% of the territory of a neighboring country and kept them under occupation for almost 30 years, while completely destroying ALL cities and villages? Not just bombed some of them, but destroyed to the ground

Racist fuck

You miserable hypocrites, your games are now torrents only, nothing personal.

Just get out of this hate people. please.

I understand that there are no "We are all one human race love love love <3" utopia, but hating each other here in forum won't solve a thing.
We're indeed all brothers and sisters from one common human race though, and while we fight and hating each other, some are just laughing because humanity is divided once again. Let's not repeat history again with useless wars.

Let's just pray for Ukraine and Russia right now because while we are here, young soldiers are dying on both sides.

This is just saddening.

Do you even realize how messed up this narrative is? "Go change the president and stop war", are you serious? They tried in Belarus, which is much smaller and has less law enforcement loyal to the president than in Russia, and what's the result? Am I supposed to go throw Molotovs at Kremlin or I don't know assassinate Putin myself? We have our own lives, responsibilities, our loved ones we must take care of and provide for. I'm a father, a husband and a son of my parents, what am I supposed to do? Just listen to yourself ffs, not every person in Russia is ready to put their lives and lives of their beloved ones at stake so guys like you would stop judging us. Hell fucking no. You portray overthrowing of power as some kind of a no-brainer, JUST GO AND DO IT, plain and simple.
By the way, I'm upset with the ban, but not surprised at all. Appreciate all the support within and outside this thread.

Of course not
i only said its a possibility it can happen even there
after all the president holds alot of power