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Posted August 10, 2023
Time for a story-rich RPG with an incredible art style – Stray Gods: The Roleplaying Musical is now out on GOG!

Immerse yourself in a captivating modern fantasy realm where Grace, a college dropout, unexpectedly receives the extraordinary power of a Muse. This newfound ability becomes her lifeline as she embarks on a race against time to uncover the truth surrounding her predecessor's mysterious demise. Your decisions will shape Grace's destiny, determining her allies, people she can trust, and those who may ultimately betray her. Brought to life through exquisite hand-illustrated visuals and accompanied by a captivating musical score, written by the acclaimed David Gaider, Stray Gods: The Roleplaying Musical invites you to explore themes of self-discovery, seizing control of one's own fate, and unearthing long-awaited answers. Brace yourself for a journey where your choices hold the power to alter the multiple endings and shape the unique path Grace undertakes on her remarkable quest.

That’s not all though! You can now also get special soundtrack editions:
Stray Gods - Blue Edition (Original Game Soundtrack)
Stray Gods - Green Edition (Original Game Soundtrack)
Stray Gods - Red Edition (Original Game Soundtrack)
Stray Gods - Pantheon Edition (Original Game Soundtrack)
Stray Gods - Ultimate Setlist Bundle
Stray Gods - Pantheon Soundtrack Bundle

Now on GOG!
Posted August 12, 2023
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Catventurer: At the same time, games like Eye of the Beholder are not RPGs because you have a group of four characters and do not assume the role of anyone. They are just dungeon simulators that use the mechanics and setting of Dungeons & Dragons. This is why I have an issue with the whole "playing a role" definition.
RPGs are the crabs of gaming. Just like many animals keep evolving to be more-crab-like, so are many games convergently evolving into RPGs. You either start implementing RPG elements, or you become stagnant and out of date. I don't really see the point in arguing what is an RPG and what isn't, when the definition of a term keep changing too.

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neumi5694: And every good TV show has at least one musical episode. In Buffy it was caused by magic, in Star Trek - the last one I saw - it was some subspace probability field or whatever, the Klingons did a boyband performance and were very embarrassed about it.
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viranimus: Perfect example. We go nearly 30 years without good trek and JUST when it starts getting watchable again the bust out the horrific "GLEETREK". Seriously, Someone should have been taken out into a field and horsewhipped for trying to push that idea and not only was it a terrible and pointless "filler" episode, It also stoked the embers of the same controversies surrounding trek since its return.

NO tv show has EVER made a good musical because musicals by their very nature are terrible. There is simply not a single good example. Not Buffy, Not Doctor Horrible, Not even friggen Rocky Horror for as antique as that is. They only exist as a carryover from vaudeville days when "theater" was one of the few entertainments available. Thanks to the modern era of the last half century and advents like Games, streaming, On demand video and hell even airways broadcast television rendered the concept of a musical 100% obsolete and pointless.
I've no idea what "GLEETREK" is, 'cause I stopped watching Star Trek after Season 2 of Discovery, though I have watched everything that came before. Star Trek has always had its fair share of cheese overload, especially in the original series, so I doubt a musical episode would have made it any worse.

Also if a series, that takes itself relatively seriously, suddenly does a musical, I can understand why it would put some people off. I think it's best for musicals to stay in their own space. And that's exactly what this game does. This is not Witcher the musical by CDPR, nor Call of Duty the musical. It's its own thing, so there's no reason to get upset by it. Ignore it and move along.

These may be rather stereotypical, but here are some examples of great musicals:
The Phantom of The Opera
Love Never Dies
Cats
Les Misérables
The Wizard of Oz
Wicked
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
Chicago
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street

There can be good musical episodes in a non-musical show, but you should not use them as a primary example, because you will already come with a negative bias just due to an unexpected change in tone and story delivery. Check out an actual musical that never tricked you into thinking it was anything else.

Also I think the reason why musicals put some people off is because they think that it is stupid for people to sing a conversation. "Why would they sing instead of speaking normally, it's stupid!" Well of course it's stupid! But here's the thing though! In a classical sense, the characters in a musical are not aware that they are singing (or dancing). It's just another story-telling medium, like animation. That is, of course, unless it's some modern musical, where they are breaking the 4th wall for some reason, or the story involves actual singing, as is the case in the Phantom, in that case they are sometimes singing story-wise too. It's the same thing as laughter tracks in old sitcoms. The characters are not aware of the laughter, unless they want to break the 4th wall.

So once you look at musicals as another story-telling form, rather than a bunch of crazy people being unable to talk normally, you will start being able to appreciate them. I actually prefer musicals to many "normal songs", because they tend to tell a far more interesting and coherent story than many "regular songs". "Normal songs" tend to be more abstract.
Post edited August 12, 2023 by SargonAelther
Posted August 12, 2023
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Catventurer: At the same time, games like Eye of the Beholder are not RPGs because you have a group of four characters and do not assume the role of anyone. They are just dungeon simulators that use the mechanics and setting of Dungeons & Dragons. This is why I have an issue with the whole "playing a role" definition.
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SargonAelther: RPGs are the crabs of gaming. Just like many animals keep evolving to be more-crab-like, so are many games convergently evolving into RPGs. You either start implementing RPG elements, or you become stagnant and out of date. I don't really see the point in arguing what is an RPG and what isn't, when the definition of a term keep changing too.
Or you could say that RPGs are the cats of gaming, and every game wants to be one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1_5mSXinQ
Posted August 12, 2023
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SargonAelther: These may be rather stereotypical, but here are some examples of great musicals:
The Phantom of The Opera
Love Never Dies
Cats
Les Misérables
The Wizard of Oz
Wicked
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
Chicago
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
OT: If you haven't done so yet, check out "Chess".
Posted August 12, 2023
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Catventurer: At the same time, games like Eye of the Beholder are not RPGs because you have a group of four characters and do not assume the role of anyone. They are just dungeon simulators that use the mechanics and setting of Dungeons & Dragons. This is why I have an issue with the whole "playing a role" definition.
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SargonAelther: RPGs are the crabs of gaming. Just like many animals keep evolving to be more-crab-like, so are many games convergently evolving into RPGs. You either start implementing RPG elements, or you become stagnant and out of date. I don't really see the point in arguing what is an RPG and what isn't, when the definition of a term keep changing too.

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viranimus: Perfect example. We go nearly 30 years without good trek and JUST when it starts getting watchable again the bust out the horrific "GLEETREK". Seriously, Someone should have been taken out into a field and horsewhipped for trying to push that idea and not only was it a terrible and pointless "filler" episode, It also stoked the embers of the same controversies surrounding trek since its return.

NO tv show has EVER made a good musical because musicals by their very nature are terrible. There is simply not a single good example. Not Buffy, Not Doctor Horrible, Not even friggen Rocky Horror for as antique as that is. They only exist as a carryover from vaudeville days when "theater" was one of the few entertainments available. Thanks to the modern era of the last half century and advents like Games, streaming, On demand video and hell even airways broadcast television rendered the concept of a musical 100% obsolete and pointless.
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SargonAelther: I've no idea what "GLEETREK" is, 'cause I stopped watching Star Trek after Season 2 of Discovery, though I have watched everything that came before. Star Trek has always had its fair share of cheese overload, especially in the original series, so I doubt a musical episode would have made it any worse.

Also if a series, that takes itself relatively seriously, suddenly does a musical, I can understand why it would put some people off. I think it's best for musicals to stay in their own space. And that's exactly what this game does. This is not Witcher the musical by CDPR, nor Call of Duty the musical. It's its own thing, so there's no reason to get upset by it. Ignore it and move along.

These may be rather stereotypical, but here are some examples of great musicals:
The Phantom of The Opera
Love Never Dies
Cats
Les Misérables
The Wizard of Oz
Wicked
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
Chicago
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street

There can be good musical episodes in a non-musical show, but you should not use them as a primary example, because you will already come with a negative bias just due to an unexpected change in tone and story delivery. Check out an actual musical that never tricked you into thinking it was anything else.

Also I think the reason why musicals put some people off is because they think that it is stupid for people to sing a conversation. "Why would they sing instead of speaking normally, it's stupid!" Well of course it's stupid! But here's the thing though! In a classical sense, the characters in a musical are not aware that they are singing (or dancing). It's just another story-telling medium, like animation. That is, of course, unless it's some modern musical, where they are breaking the 4th wall for some reason, or the story involves actual singing, as is the case in the Phantom, in that case they are sometimes singing story-wise too. It's the same thing as laughter tracks in old sitcoms. The characters are not aware of the laughter, unless they want to break the 4th wall.

So once you look at musicals as another story-telling form, rather than a bunch of crazy people being unable to talk normally, you will start being able to appreciate them. I actually prefer musicals to many "normal songs", because they tend to tell a far more interesting and coherent story than many "regular songs". "Normal songs" tend to be more abstract.
Glee Trek was Strange New Worlds, S02E08 or 9. I can understand why anyone would quit due to STD but being honest between PRODIGY, ( #SaveStarTrekProdigy ) Lower Decks, Picard S02 & 03, Strange new worlds EXCEPT 2 episodes in Season 1 and 1 episode in Season 2 are as pretty close to as good of trek as we have seen. As they abandoned the "agenda" more and more and got back to more TNG-NEM era including many of the same people who worked on trek in that era, trek has finally started to normalize back to where we expect it. They made massive errors with STD and thats why they are finally giving it the mercy killing its always begged for.

You are also right. Theres always been a healthy amount of cheese and continuity errors. EVERY trek has struggled in at the very least their first season, with arguably the exception of Strange New worlds and Prodigy. But there is a world of difference between cheese and continuity errors and a musical which by its very nature is going to be awful. Trek WAS above that bar till they pulled a GLEE episode out of their asses for no reason what so ever.
Post edited August 12, 2023 by viranimus
Posted August 12, 2023
It's all about the subject matter.
If this, this or this was real I'd be a regular with a fucking ticket for life.
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