So does that mean that those games won't be able to run AT ALL on older machines (no mater if they use Galaxy or not) because the galaxy.dll is not compatible and that it also is not possible to remove the galaxy dll because those games would crash without it - rendering the game unplayable for older machines just because a galaxy specific feature has been added?

We're already there now:-
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/good_news_galaxydll_breaks_xpcompatibility_in_good_old_games/page1
https://www.gog.com/forum/fallout_series/fallout_nv_no_drm_still_compatible_with_windows_xp/post8

^ And the irony is, using a steam emulator fixes OS compatibility for GOG games that were broken by galaxy.dll "enhancements"....

Hmmm... the list of affected games

"Affected games so far:
Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition "

Is quite short. Or did I misunderstand something?

Well FO3 is unaffected but FO:NV was because no galaxy.dll vs galaxy.dll. It's short because few people use XP today. The point is, stuff like this will rear its head again on a larger scale with W7 vs W10. Then perhaps W11 vs W10, etc. And as mentioned this stuff screws up compatibility layer development in later years (perhaps the future Win32/64 equivalent of DOSBox). It's basically cr*p offline installers don't want or need, and are growing to hate (but who would otherwise probably be more supportive of Galaxy features if they were just for Galaxy).

Thanks for the explanation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gog/comments/oqkm1x/poll_how_important_are_achievements_in_games/

53/748 = 7% - no achievements, no buy!
190/748 = 25% - most games should have them.
Together: 32%

https://www.reddit.com/r/gog/comments/ndnkqy/poll_how_do_you_download_your_gog_games/

75% Galaxy bias on r/GOG.

So meanwhile on the forums with older users, the % of "no achievements, no buy" subgroup would be even less than what it is. That's their loss, then. DRM-free is the reason why we're all here and if you're not 100% with this idea, there are much greater incentives to go elsewhere instead.

Plus 202 people who are sympathetic to the concept and who support it even though they are not directly affected. So the fundamentalists are obviously a minority as in all fields, but almost 60% of respondents view the presence of achievements positively. Not to mention, I wouldn't put as much weight on that homemade survey. I for one didn't even know it existed.

Regarding the "No achievements, no buy" actually the loss is for everyone, because as I said GOG is in dire need of new users, and every step taken to increase them would benefit us all, in terms of more releases, support etc.

PC games have been released since the 70's (oldest game on GOG is Akalabeth World of Doom (1979)). Steam Achievements only sprang into existence in 2008, and Galaxy in 2014. So what do the "No Achievements, No buy" people do with pre-2008 PC games that never natively had them? Boycott 30 years worth of classics for not containing something they never had anyway? I get why some people like them, but that's just being ridiculous...

No idea, since it's an extreme view that I don't share. Maybe they make an exception for old games, or maybe they're not interested because they think they're outdated.

Anyway, the debate started over a different issue, namely those games that have achievements on every platform imaginable except GOG, which is frankly a joke.

Jokes are to make us laugh :D
239th day of a 2021 and 253 New releases
34th week and 73 new Demos if my math is right, minus 34 removed, one has returned... 40
August is 8th, and ... nope it`s only 7 permanently free full games this year, but the Festival is on : )
a number of time-limited giveaways, I`m lost here...
permanently free DLC for a different game per month... is there eight? is there eight? nope, it`s still 7,
but let`shave good thoughts! ^

Achievements Team is looking good adding achievements. More achievements would require ...? more people in Team. The work will repay itself in a greater number of customers, it is true. I like trophies too.

+1 for this. Dear GOG team, please add achievements to the must-have things, like Steam does.

There is no reason to downvote this or similar postings. :)

Best regards,
Raff

This post right here gets a AAA+

I hate to necro an old thread but in searching for why Psychonauts 2 doesn't have the achievements, I came across this discussion.

My take: Why WOULDN'T you implement them??? I can't imagine it would cost much in effort or time to get them added into galaxy especially since it looks like gog is already committing to having them in the first place when it comes to many other newer and heck even older games (Deus Ex GOTY comes to mind)...

I don't think that its ever a MUST have, but I will say that it definitely stands out when you're trying to compare apples to apples and for some mysterious reason one game has achievements but another has them left out and I'm pretty sure your average consumer is going to look at that and have it be a deciding factor in some cases. Why wouldn't they want more?

I'm glad that this managed to be completed before Fig's untimely demise thanks to a charlatan grifter. I suggest searching for the phrase, net loss for a bit of an eye opener.