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Syphon72: It's odd because the hate for GOG is weird. It comes off like GOG ruined their life, and made it not worth living anymore. Ha-ha, I only see hate for GOG on their forums of all places. Well and on that other that starts with a Z.
It's not really odd. People loved GOG for what it was. Then it moved away from the core principles and pushes the boundaries on DRM free all the time. People loved GOG for what it was, and they hate to see it changing the way it's changing. We still appreciate GOG or we wouldn't be here. But most of my experiences with GOG recently have been negative, rather than positive. I've been so close to just walknig away, but then there aren't any viable substitutes for what GOG brings to the table. There are no DRM free stores (or close to DRM free stores) that have the selection and big name games GOG has. That's worth noting.
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Syphon72: Ha-ha, I only see hate for GOG on their forums of all places. Well and on that other that starts with a Z.
There's plenty of hate for GOG at Steam, too. Talking about GOG or DRM-free there usually gets me accused of being a pirate.

I don't hate GOG. Some of their choices are frustrating, though.
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DoomSooth: There's plenty of hate for GOG at Steam, too. Talking about GOG or DRM-free there usually gets me accused of being a pirate.

I don't hate GOG. Some of their choices are frustrating, though.
Yeah, I noticed that one, too. The only reason people might want a GOG version is to buy it, games are pirated without any DRM-free version available anyway. XD But that's probably just people trying to get a raise out of those who ask.

I really like GOG. For all the flaws, it's a pretty damn good store.

Speaking of frustration, I still wish we'll get a version of the new Hitman games without the online unlocks for the game, that would be really amazing. I like the new games in the series, and I'd wish to have a DRM-free backup. That's one that stung the most, because the game just got pulled and I never heard any news about a return.
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mdqp: Speaking of frustration, I still wish we'll get a version of the new Hitman games without the online unlocks for the game, that would be really amazing. I like the new games in the series, and I'd wish to have a DRM-free backup. That's one that stung the most, because the game just got pulled and I never heard any news about a return.
Worst case scenario is they could set those things to automagically be unlocked. Would take the fun out of earning them but we'd have them.
I've always appreciated Gog for what they offer. In this day and age, it's just exciting that there is still a store that at least keeps DRM Free in the minds of consumers. As with just about any retailer ever, there are certainly things that I would prefer to be different, some of which CDPR controls and some of which is up to the publishers I'm aware, but every little bit that pushes forward here feels like a win to me.
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DoomSooth: Worst case scenario is they could set those things to automagically be unlocked. Would take the fun out of earning them but we'd have them.
Yeah, that would be acceptable, even if not ideal. I don't particularly care about the process of unlocking the extra tools and starting points, but it was part of how they envisioned the game, and I'd like that preserved (in a DRM-free form), if possible.
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GoldenCavalier: A few years ago I found myself searching abandonware sites all over the net having decided to relive my glory days of yore in the crpg genre. As many of you no doubt know, that was a maddening experience. Then one day I stumbled across GOG.com, and low and behold, I could buy all of the classic gams I'd loved and replay them, working right away without having to jump through hoops and endlessly play with DOSBOX to try to get them to work - and for mere pocket change! I've been here ever since, haven't had had any kind of problem with anything I've purchased or played, and I am very grateful! I hope GOG thrives for many years to come!
Actually, in my case for me it's more like desiring to play old WRPGs (let's be honest: GOG's selection of old JRPGs is basically non-existent; nearly every CRPG on GOG, particularly if we focus on older ones, is a WRPG) that I have n ever played before. I believe my first purchase here was, in fact, the Might and Magic 6-pack. (Incidentally, I think I enjoyed 3 more than Xeen, and 2 more than 3, back then.)

Now I'm seriously thinking of playing Shard of Spring and/or Demon's Winter.

(Of course, I've been side-tracked into playing incremental games, but as I get more used to them, I could, perhaps, be comfortable playing both at the same time.)
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paladin181: There are no DRM free stores (or close to DRM free stores) that have the selection and big name games GOG has. That's worth noting.
Well, itch.io probably has a bigger selection, going by total number of DRM-free games, than GOG. On the other hand, if you put some standard to exclude things like game jam submissions, then GOG will have more.
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GoldenCavalier: A few years ago I found myself searching abandonware sites all over the net having decided to relive my glory days of yore in the crpg genre. As many of you no doubt know, that was a maddening experience. Then one day I stumbled across GOG.com, and low and behold, I could buy all of the classic gams I'd loved and replay them, working right away without having to jump through hoops and endlessly play with DOSBOX to try to get them to work - and for mere pocket change! I've been here ever since, haven't had had any kind of problem with anything I've purchased or played, and I am very grateful! I hope GOG thrives for many years to come!
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dtgreene: Actually, in my case for me it's more like desiring to play old WRPGs (let's be honest: GOG's selection of old JRPGs is basically non-existent; nearly every CRPG on GOG, particularly if we focus on older ones, is a WRPG) that I have n ever played before. I believe my first purchase here was, in fact, the Might and Magic 6-pack. (Incidentally, I think I enjoyed 3 more than Xeen, and 2 more than 3, back then.)

Now I'm seriously thinking of playing Shard of Spring and/or Demon's Winter.

(Of course, I've been side-tracked into playing incremental games, but as I get more used to them, I could, perhaps, be comfortable playing both at the same time.)
JRPG's aren't my thing, I really don't care for the anime style. Never heard the term WRPG before. Honestly I always just called them RPG's even though they were on computer. The entire Might and Magic series were among my first purchases as well. I'd only played through 3 way back when, with 3 being one of the first games I ever played after upgrading from my C64 to an IBM clone! Games like this, Ultima, Bard's Tale, Wasteland, these were the things I was looking to replay and then find similar games I'd never tried. GOG made all of that real simple for me at a price point I couldn't believe, and every game I've tried since coming here has worked for me with no issues.

Might and Magic 1 and Wasteland were among my first games completed on GOG Galaxy, and I couldn't resist Bard's Tale 4 which I enjoyed immensely! I don't like trying to play more than one game at a time so I've bounced around between franchises a bit and currently I've circled back to Might and Magic 2. I always buy game's on sale, but I've been happy to support GOG by building a library of games to keep me entertained for years to come!
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Syphon72: It's odd because the hate for GOG is weird. It comes off like GOG ruined their life, and made it not worth living anymore. Ha-ha, I only see hate for GOG on their forums of all places. Well and on that other that starts with a Z.
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paladin181: It's not really odd. People loved GOG for what it was. Then it moved away from the core principles and pushes the boundaries on DRM free all the time. People loved GOG for what it was, and they hate to see it changing the way it's changing. We still appreciate GOG or we wouldn't be here. But most of my experiences with GOG recently have been negative, rather than positive. I've been so close to just walknig away, but then there aren't any viable substitutes for what GOG brings to the table. There are no DRM free stores (or close to DRM free stores) that have the selection and big name games GOG has. That's worth noting.
The reason I'm saying it's odd because to me at least. When you dislike something you don't to hang around that person or object on your free time.
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GoldenCavalier: JRPG's aren't my thing, I really don't care for the anime style. Never heard the term WRPG before. Honestly I always just called them RPG's even though they were on computer.
The way I see the terminology is as follows:
* RPG: Term that includes both table-top and computer RPGs. Usually, depending on context, it's meant to refer to one or the other.
* CRPG: Refers to RPGs played on a computer (or video game console). Notably, this includes both WRPGs and JRPGs, but doesn't include table top games like Dungeons & Dragons (though there are CRPGs based on D&D).
* WRPG: The style of RPG that's traditionally made by western developers. These tend to take a more simulationist approach. (For example, an item that you drop will typically stay on the ground.)
* JRPG: The style of RPG that's traditionally made by Japanese developers. These tend to take a more simplified approach. (For example, if you drop an item (assuming the game implements that option), it will just disappear.

Note that WRPG and JRPG refer to styles of RPG, not necessarily to where they were actually developed.

There's also some cases of games that mix styles: Dragon Quest 1 has some characteristics more common in WRPGs of the era (non-linear open world, keys are consumables, dungeons are dark unless you use a torch or light spell), and the Romancing SaGa games, which are rather unconventional, are non-linear the way many WRPGs tend to be.

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dtgreene: Actually, in my case for me it's more like desiring to play old WRPGs (let's be honest: GOG's selection of old JRPGs is basically non-existent; nearly every CRPG on GOG, particularly if we focus on older ones, is a WRPG) that I have n ever played before. I believe my first purchase here was, in fact, the Might and Magic 6-pack. (Incidentally, I think I enjoyed 3 more than Xeen, and 2 more than 3, back then.)

Now I'm seriously thinking of playing Shard of Spring and/or Demon's Winter.

(Of course, I've been side-tracked into playing incremental games, but as I get more used to them, I could, perhaps, be comfortable playing both at the same time.)
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GoldenCavalier: JRPG's aren't my thing, I really don't care for the anime style. Never heard the term WRPG before. Honestly I always just called them RPG's even though they were on computer. The entire Might and Magic series were among my first purchases as well. I'd only played through 3 way back when, with 3 being one of the first games I ever played after upgrading from my C64 to an IBM clone! Games like this, Ultima, Bard's Tale, Wasteland, these were the things I was looking to replay and then find similar games I'd never tried. GOG made all of that real simple for me at a price point I couldn't believe, and every game I've tried since coming here has worked for me with no issues.

Might and Magic 1 and Wasteland were among my first games completed on GOG Galaxy, and I couldn't resist Bard's Tale 4 which I enjoyed immensely! I don't like trying to play more than one game at a time so I've bounced around between franchises a bit and currently I've circled back to Might and Magic 2. I always buy game's on sale, but I've been happy to support GOG by building a library of games to keep me entertained for years to come!
Worth noting that playing multiple games as once is significantly less of an issue if all but one of them are incremental games. In incremental games, you can continue to progress when not interacting with the game, and sometimes you have to wait to continue, so you can do other things, like play other games, in the meantime.
Post edited September 13, 2022 by dtgreene
I appreciate GoG for having good DRM free games, my first place to buy games.
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BreOl72: people in general tend to rather vent their anger.
I consider it a Truth in life that people are very, very quick to complain, and very, very slow to praise.
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BreOl72: people in general tend to rather vent their anger.
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BlueMooner: I consider it a Truth in life that people are very, very quick to complain, and very, very slow to praise.
That's a fact.
And one that can be witnessed in these forums (and every other online forum, and in the workplace, and in school, and in the family, and, and, and...) every single day.
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BreOl72: That's a fact.
And one that can be witnessed in these forums (and every other online forum, and in the workplace, and in school, and in the family, and, and, and...) every single day.
It's human nature, I think you may mean ?...