Problem is that good moderation is difficult/almost impossible to find. My experience is rather negative and I think the best moderation is the minimal invasive possible moderation.

Most people here get along rather well and without any particular posts or links I would rather assume that this forum does not need more moderation. In this case you probably could go already, since there is a minimal amount of moderation present, for example when blues lock topics.

GOG clearly prefers the minimalist style but doesn't mean there is no moderation at all.

Was that a hint? :D

No, not really. That would be too subtle. I prefer BFGs. :D

Sorry for the late reply; there aren’t many posts I felt I could reply to. I just don't think I share that experience or maybe I just don't get along with people. I do feel that most sites should have at least some degree of moderation. At the very least an ignore button would be nice. An ignore button would stop you from being notified by people on the list and any comments posted by people on this list would be auto hidden. what are blues? I've head that referred to more then once.

GOG staff members - text in their posts is blue.

The only place we need moderators (cleaners) is Wishlist ;)
Jeez, what a mess...

A report button is no good if there's no one willing to act on said report. Ergo, a moderator.

As you see, people here are rather set in their views on good forum policy, and to hell with anybody who tries to explain to them why they might be wrong. For their part, GOG will happily maintain the status-quo, which blissfully delivers them from any responsibility they might have to otherwise take.

You're not alone in wanting a moderated forum, far from it. But, in the present circumstances, people who would support you, would also get liberally shouted down. In order to survive and stay mostly sane on an unmoderated forum, one has to learn to keep clear of certain debates and threads, this being one such. It's the unspoken censorship of lawlessness. Sorry.

Status quo is not how I would explain GOG in this current state. Things are ever changing. The decision to moderate the forums ultimately comes down to the GOG staff and there is nothing you or I can do about that. If they decide to moderate they will.

That being said I find your point on self censorship odd. People are saying that moderation will take away peoples freedom and you seem to against it yourself, but your point counters your argument a bit. That being that if you have to self censer and avoid certain debates and topics, then you're not really free. It is only my opinion that little moderation would help with keeping people behavior in check. Or if you're dead set on a "by the people for the people" system, then how about an ignore feature. If someone is a trouble maker and their comments are auto hidden by people who use this feature then that could potentially hider their efforts to disrupt thing.

Eh, what's it going to do? Waste GOG staff members' time pouring over reports from users with hurt feelings? Allow agenda pushers to get people banned for not using the "right" terminology or having "hateful" opinions? What benefit?

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/ive_never_seen_a_better_argument_against_moderation/page1

I strongly prefer the light hand that GOG currently employs. GOG moderates when there is truly a need for it. Actual threats, real harassment, etc.

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DON'T moderate the forum more:
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/dont_moderate_the_forum_more

If I didn't know any better I'd say you're beating the strawman. “hurt feelings, agenda pushers, banned for opinions?”

What on earth are you taking about! How does any of those things hold any relevance to what I've said. As for that never seen better argument. That's conformation bias. That's when instead of weighing the evidence and drawing a conclusion you look for evidence to support a conclusion you already have. (religious people do this a lot)

Anyway I clicked the link and wasn't sure what it was I was supposed to see.

Let me try again to emphases why I want a little more moderation. On these formers in particular I find it hard to conversations on these forums, because no matter how harmless something starts out extroverts always seem to come in and ruin it. This is like sitting at a table with people and trying to have a conversation, then a bunch of noisy people who don't like what you've said but in and start shouting and drowning you out. In real life you can get up and walk away, tell them to fuck off or sometimes punch them. On the internet you can't do that. There are forums on this site that have been ruined by this type of behaviour. Trolls coming in with nothing productive and nothing to contribute. There are plenty of people here who disagree with me but have also offered constructive crisis.

This might surprise you but that wish to keep the forums the way they are doesn't upset me at all. In fact I think it's insightful like a poll. It's telling me what people think. However since it's been reposted quite a few times I think it's only fair that I repost my wish as well http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/moderate_the_forums

I hope this gives you a better understanding of what I'm trying to do. This isn't a competition or an election. It's a discussion. Trying to turn it into a competition and throwing shit around like monkeys over a topic such as this I find is more limiting to freedom of speech then moderation is. I don't want people banned or even suspended. I want people to stop and think about what they are say.

What the hell? I haven't seen any bullying or harassment or whatnot here ever. In fact, this is like the only place I know that has none of this kind of behavior, so what's there to moderate? Seriously.

Okay... And I always thought I like the GOG forums because that's exactly what's NOT happening here oO

And who exactly decides who is being too loud, who is ruining the conversation? Who is the one shouting? Are you shouting now? Should YOU be moderated out?

The truth is these forums don't really get very heated, compared to most. The few times it has, moderators have stepped in and asked for calm. As I see it, these forums are moderated, with a loose hand, and this loose hand has made this one of the best forums to discuss. I credit the light moderation for making these forums what they are.

Well I'm not going to name anyone specifically because that would be bulling. But there are a few obnoxious people I've encountered yes. Nothing too serious, but I do think it warrants a warning or two.