Posted September 10, 2015
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timppu
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Posted September 10, 2015
Hmmm, how do you "turn it off"? I know you can select in the NVidia control panel whether:
1. Let the drivers decide automatically when to use Geforce and when Intel GPU.
2. Prefer using Geforce.
3. Prefer using Intel.
That can be set as an universal setting, or case by case, for each game or application separately. It seems that regardless of your choice, the driver might still choose differently, allegedly for compatibility reasons.
I don't recall any option to "turn off" Optimus though. Which GPU would it use then?
The ability to select the GPU case by case is sometimes quite useful though. Sometimes if the game doesn't work correctly on one GPU, it might work fine if you switch the GPU to the other. For instance Gorky 17, compatibility problems with Geforce, works great with Intel GPU.
In the games of The Witcher 3, I'd definitely try to run it with Geforce of course (force it to use the Geforce GPU, if necessary).
1. Let the drivers decide automatically when to use Geforce and when Intel GPU.
2. Prefer using Geforce.
3. Prefer using Intel.
That can be set as an universal setting, or case by case, for each game or application separately. It seems that regardless of your choice, the driver might still choose differently, allegedly for compatibility reasons.
I don't recall any option to "turn off" Optimus though. Which GPU would it use then?
The ability to select the GPU case by case is sometimes quite useful though. Sometimes if the game doesn't work correctly on one GPU, it might work fine if you switch the GPU to the other. For instance Gorky 17, compatibility problems with Geforce, works great with Intel GPU.
In the games of The Witcher 3, I'd definitely try to run it with Geforce of course (force it to use the Geforce GPU, if necessary).
Post edited September 10, 2015 by timppu
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vsr Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Jun 2012
From Russian Federation
Posted September 10, 2015
timppu: Hmmm, how do you "turn it off"? I know you can select in the NVidia control panel whether:
1. Let the drivers decide automatically when to use Geforce and when Intel GPU.
2. Prefer using Geforce.
3. Prefer using Intel.
That can be set as an universal setting, or case by case, for each game or application separately. It seems that regardless of your choice, the driver might still choose differently, allegedly for compatibility reasons.
I don't recall any option to "turn off" Optimus though. Which GPU would it use then?
The ability to select the GPU case by case is sometimes quite useful though. Sometimes if the game doesn't work correctly on one GPU, it might work fine if you switch the GPU to the other. For instance Gorky 17, compatibility problems with Geforce, works great with Intel GPU.
In the games of The Witcher 3, I'd definitely try to run it with Geforce of course (force it to use the Geforce GPU, if necessary).
That's right. It's in the control panel. 1. Let the drivers decide automatically when to use Geforce and when Intel GPU.
2. Prefer using Geforce.
3. Prefer using Intel.
That can be set as an universal setting, or case by case, for each game or application separately. It seems that regardless of your choice, the driver might still choose differently, allegedly for compatibility reasons.
I don't recall any option to "turn off" Optimus though. Which GPU would it use then?
The ability to select the GPU case by case is sometimes quite useful though. Sometimes if the game doesn't work correctly on one GPU, it might work fine if you switch the GPU to the other. For instance Gorky 17, compatibility problems with Geforce, works great with Intel GPU.
In the games of The Witcher 3, I'd definitely try to run it with Geforce of course (force it to use the Geforce GPU, if necessary).
By saying "turn off" i mean you can force laptop to use only discreet gpu or cpu's integrated graphics.
If someone knows Russian language, there is a good tutorial on nVidia Optimus. I used it to solve performance issues on friend's laptop.
LevityInGaming
Just because we disagree doesnt mean I hate you.
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Posted September 10, 2015
To the OP: Something's wrong with your laptop. I would have it checked out. It's normal for the keyboard to get warm when playing a demanding game, but it shouldn't be hot enough to give you blisters.
Tallima
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Posted September 10, 2015
ipiriel2: JESUS
I COULDN;T PLAY CAUSE MY HANDS WERE SO HOT BY LAPTOP KEYBOARD. (PLAYED ONLY FOR HALF AN HOUR)
HERE'S MY LAPTOP(NEW ONE. BOUGHT 2 WEEKS AGO)
CPU INTEL CORE i7-5700HQ 2.7GHZ
GRAPHIC: GEFORCE GTX 970M
RAM 8GB
GAME WAS TOO SLOW SO I UNCHECKED VSYNC SOMETHING AND GAME SPEED WAS NORMAL SO I WAS ABLE TO ENJOY. BUT MY HANDS WERE SO BURNING BY KEYBOARDS AND CPU DEGREE WAS MORE THAN 85
I WENT TO GRAPHIC OPTION AND MADE EVERYTHING TO LOW
BUT STILL.....
WHY IS IT HAPPENED?
I didn't read all of this thread, but turn VSync back on. It caps your FPS to 60. With it off, you might be over-doing it. I COULDN;T PLAY CAUSE MY HANDS WERE SO HOT BY LAPTOP KEYBOARD. (PLAYED ONLY FOR HALF AN HOUR)
HERE'S MY LAPTOP(NEW ONE. BOUGHT 2 WEEKS AGO)
CPU INTEL CORE i7-5700HQ 2.7GHZ
GRAPHIC: GEFORCE GTX 970M
RAM 8GB
GAME WAS TOO SLOW SO I UNCHECKED VSYNC SOMETHING AND GAME SPEED WAS NORMAL SO I WAS ABLE TO ENJOY. BUT MY HANDS WERE SO BURNING BY KEYBOARDS AND CPU DEGREE WAS MORE THAN 85
I WENT TO GRAPHIC OPTION AND MADE EVERYTHING TO LOW
BUT STILL.....
WHY IS IT HAPPENED?
Also, get a new laptop.
Navagon
Easily Persuaded
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Posted September 11, 2015
Navagon: Manufacturers build these laptops to ever higher specs, blissfully ignoring the fact that the second the system is actually put to the test is the very same second the thing spontaneously combusts.
Gnostic: Is that true? Even the Witcher 3 shouldn't really push a 970 to its limits, yet it's damn near melting that laptop all the same. So yes, there's truth in that. The simple truth is that no matter what hardware system builders jam in there, a laptop should at most be considered slightly above average for a new PC. So there's no point in buying anything that exceeds that criteria.
timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
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From Finland
Posted September 11, 2015
Leucius: To the OP: Something's wrong with your laptop. I would have it checked out. It's normal for the keyboard to get warm when playing a demanding game, but it shouldn't be hot enough to give you blisters.
Also, since it is a bigger 17.3" gaming laptop, it should certainly have good ventilation. I've usually associated the "hot keyboard"-feature to smaller non-gaming laptops which are run near their limits. http://www.msi.com/product/notebook/GE72-2QF-Apache-Pro.html#hero-overview
"Cooler Boost 3: higher efficiency dual cooling system"... I wonder if that is worth anything then, besides marketing?
Then again if a fan gets totally broken, the system should notice that upon bootup and refuse to proceed.
Question to OP. do the fans seem to run ok, ie. you can feel there is warm/hot air being constantly pushed out from the laptop? Maybe you even hear the fan(s) spin up faster when running TW3? Then it should be working as it should, even though 85 C CPU (or more) core temp is still maybe a bit too high.
Also it wasn't clear to me: was this problem only when you disabled vsync? I'd suggest two things (which were kinda mentioned already before):
- Enable vsync in the game.
- From the NVidia Control Panel, force The Witcher 3 to use the NVidia Geforce GPU (using Intel GPU wouldn't certainly cause overheating, but just thinking it might have caused the performance problems you reported when enabling vsync, if the Optimus system somehow incorrectly switched to the Intel GPU at that point).
Do you then have performance, or overheating, problems?
Post edited September 11, 2015 by timppu
timppu
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timppu Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted September 11, 2015
LOL come on. :) Apparently that MSI laptop model is quite new, it even comes with Windows 10 preloaded. (Then again he didn't reveal the exact laptop model only until later in the thread.). So if there is some manufacturing problem in it causing overheating, warranty should cover it.
I agree with you though: enable vsync back, and make sure NVidia GPU is being utilized with TW3.
I recall reading on the ASUS user forums a couple of years ago when some people were complaining about their 15" ASUS gaming laptops overheating (the CPU). One of them opened the laptop and saw some kind of "film" (wrapper) on top of the CPU. He removed it, and it seemed the overheating problem was gone. So it appeared like there had been some manufacturing problem on some patch of the laptops, forgetting to remove some protective sheet or something?
I didn't follow that discussion long enough to find out if that was really the case, but that sounded odd anyway. Was the "CPU wrapper" there on purpose, or inadvertently?
I agree with you though: enable vsync back, and make sure NVidia GPU is being utilized with TW3.
I recall reading on the ASUS user forums a couple of years ago when some people were complaining about their 15" ASUS gaming laptops overheating (the CPU). One of them opened the laptop and saw some kind of "film" (wrapper) on top of the CPU. He removed it, and it seemed the overheating problem was gone. So it appeared like there had been some manufacturing problem on some patch of the laptops, forgetting to remove some protective sheet or something?
I didn't follow that discussion long enough to find out if that was really the case, but that sounded odd anyway. Was the "CPU wrapper" there on purpose, or inadvertently?
Lucian_Galca
UPDATE YOUR GAMES GOG!
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Tallima
TreasureHunting!
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Posted September 11, 2015
I wasn't kidding. If it's under warranty, s/he needs to get it warranty repaired if it's causing burning-hot heat from the top - if a warranty repair is available. If it's not available, then either get it repaired or spend some money to trade it out. That kind of heat will destroy that laptop with enough time.
HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
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Posted September 11, 2015
LOLing at the "it's broken" posts.
ipiriel2
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From Korea, Republic of
Posted September 15, 2015
vsr: It can happen when nVidia Optimus is turned ON. Turn it off and try again.
nVidia Optimus technology switches between cpu's integrated graphics and discreet videocard depending on load. Sometimes it does it ineffectively, causing lags.
It is used on laptops only, iirc.
you're right. nVidia Optimus technology switches between cpu's integrated graphics and discreet videocard depending on load. Sometimes it does it ineffectively, causing lags.
It is used on laptops only, iirc.
problem solved.
i changed some sort of settings on Nvidia and made sure to run TW3 with GTX 970M
then it ran quite well so i turned Vsync on again. but still no problem.
guess my problem was damn OPTIMUS thing.
bless you everyone and timppu. love u
rodrolliv
No corporation is your friend
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Posted September 15, 2015
And bless the Eternal Fire!
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Posted September 15, 2015
would have been cooler if tc actually learnt the burning hands spell.