hedwards: Isn't that more or less the status quo? And I'm not sure how it's unconstitutional you go into the restroom based upon genitals, so it applies to everybody equally.
Now, whether or not that should be the case or is even necessary is a completely different matter. This isn't like same-sex marriage where there were other rights and privileges associated with it.
dtgreene: Actually, the status quo is that trans people (especially those who pass) actually use the bathroom that fits their gender identity and no one notices.
You claim that it applies to everyone equally. Well, back in the day they used to separate bathrooms based of skin color: those with white skin get one bathroom, and those with black skin get a different one. In 1954, the US supreme court ruled that "separate but equal" was not actually equal, in the Brown v. Board of Education.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal This is idiotic.
Those restrooms that were for colored people weren't as good as the ones that were being used by whites. And precisely how is being forced to use the restroom that others of their biological sex are using oppressive? It certainly doesn't limit their choices for career advancement and the like.
Also, if you think that separate but equal isn't constitutional, you've misread the judgment, they were integrated because the schools for colored children weren't equal to the ones for whites.
dtgreene: You claim that it applies to everyone equally. Well, back in the day they used to separate bathrooms based of skin color: those with white skin get one bathroom, and those with black skin get a different one. In 1954, the US supreme court ruled that "separate but equal" was not actually equal, in the Brown v. Board of Education.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal Bookwyrm627: Maybe I'm missing something, but this Separate But Equal reference appears to be a total non-sequitur.
I don't see how "Separate but Equal", as a principle, is wrong (sort of like Communism, in theory, works well). In practice, it was eventually struck down because the separate facilities were routinely and manifestly NOT equal. I don't see why that is relevant evidence about the bathroom discussion, in either direction, unless you are somehow claiming that either men's or women's restrooms are routinely dirtier.
And if the lady restrooms have it worse than some of the guy's restrooms I've seen, then they have my sympathy.
The issue with separate but equal was that they weren't equal. The schools for colored people were less well funded and generally inferior to the ones for white children. The court didn't need to address the question of whether or not separate could be equal as that wasn't the case on the ground.
Also, I'm not even sure how being forced to use the same restrooms as non-trans people is unequal.
