Yeah saw an advert for these yesterday while I was installing the latest NVidia drivers.

I guess/hope this will make e.g. GTX 980M (the mobile GPU) cheaper as well.

How many FPS can I generally expect? How much heat does it create? How much power does it draw? How much does it cost (power draw may have an impact as well)? ... That's not exactly what I consider highly technical terms rather than basic information for a buying decision.

What I was talking about is the whole 'look at them terraflops, bandwidth pipeline, type of memory used, architecture' ... blah blah blah. All I need to know is how it compares to other cards in performance terms. All the nitty gritty detail I couldn't give a rat's ass about.

You're a bit hard with AMD. their current cards offer an interesting price/performance ratio, at least here. It's true the R9 2xx and 3xx offer to little incentive to disinvest my HD7950 & 7870 ( 2 computers... ), especially as I still run 7 on my desktops, but Nvidia cards of the '70 series are and are bound to remain unreasonably priced imho ( by the way, Nvidia prices in EUR seem to be US prices in USD +10% , whereas AMD prices in EUR seem to be 1 EUR=1 USD, meaning that for me a Nidia card is relatively 10% more expensive vs AMD than for you )

Yeah, not too fussed on an 'upgrade' that I won't need. My monitor is only a 1080p native with 60fps, so it seems unnecessary to buy a better card when this one does perfect work already. In order the make the most of these newer cards I'd need to spend at least $500 on a monitor too, so yeah.... pointless.

As always. But AMD already said it will have new gen cards soon that are a lot less power hungry. It's hard to know how they'll compare to NVIDIA, but I think they won't be hugely different in performance / power.

Personally I never go for high end cards. My currently most used graphics card is a half height passive Radeon 5550 with 1GB DDR2, in the HTPC. It's used for playing LEGO games and other games the kids like, and works decently well for that. It will be replaced with an AMD Bristol Ridge APU once these are released.

I'm waiting for the real benchmarks and actual prices too.
Here the GTX 970-980 still cost 550-700€ and the Radeon 390 350€..

Too bad. They managed to get me hot for the versions with the new HBM2 ram before they found out they still have a stock of too much old DDR5 to get rid off.

On the bright side my GTX 750 (non ti) wth a mere lousy 1 GB placeholder for the newest gen card is surprisingly good with everything I had thrown at it.

Not interested, it's supported only by the same proprietary driver. Owned nvidia riva tnt2, geforce256, 6800gt, 9800gt, gtx260sp216, 460 previously. No high fps argument can lure me back into nvidia. Once the card gets older, the support is virtually out. AMD support lasts forever.

This. I'm very interested to see how the GTX 1070 compares to my GTX 970 in Witcher 3. I don't think I won't be getting a new card until Cyberpunk 2077 anyway.

I don't like Nvidia though, it's too much of a scumbag company, I prefer to support AMD.

I've never had any major problems with my AMD cards anyway, unless directly caused by Nvidia's embed technology in the games they co-develop with developers and publishers, like Project Cars and the Witcher 3.

That's true :\
There's also that fraud with the 970 memory..

But where are the AMD Polaris cards?

Although as it seems Bristol Ridge and Carrizzo are not that different, being based on the steamroller architecture. Here too, curious to see what "Zen" / summit ridge actually delivers, both for AM4 cpus and for APUs.

The GeForce GTX 1080 seems a beast of a GPU. I would buy a couple of them.... If I had the money -_-"

new gpu, orgasm

CPU-wise, the rumoured specs put the top of the line Bristol Ridge CPU as slightly slower than the current A10-7860K (same clocks but half the cache), but the GPU part is faster than the A10-7890K: faster clock, DDR4 RAM and GCN 1.2, which has texture compression, so should be significantly faster for some things.

The A10-7890K would serve my gaming needs nicely, but it would be much nicer to get that performance in a 65W APU with an AM4 socket that could be used for future upgrades.