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Matruchus: The problem is not what happened with Cyberpunk 2077 release. The problem is the class action lawsuit against CD RED that's coming around in Poland by investors cause they lost a lot of income with all the fraud connected to Cyberpunk 2077 launch. This lawsuit if it comes to fruition could very well bankrupt CD RED and with it gog.
Well for now at least this "class action" is a post on a public forum from a "lawyer" that nobody knows and nobody can contact. Might change in the future but for now it's not exactly a big threat.
jail the ceo , this is the way
Assuming a class action was brought before court it could be settled outside. The founders of CDPR could easily pay damages in case CDPR were to be found guilty after a trial. It will not come to that and they will not declare bankruptcy over CP.

It is a financial hit they have to face now. New trouble with corrupt save states >8MB, another nail in CP's coffin, bugs, cut content, all that may eventually be fixed and added; The planned standalone multiplayer will become another source to make money by way of micro-transactions beside paid-for DLC (which may be divided between MP/SP). CDPR will be able to fix most of it but they have to work hard.

What can't be repaired so easily is loss of trust on all sides: Shareholders, staff, customers. Even this can be done given time. Sadly GoG/CDPR doesn't show signs of opening up to one of their other sources of income, no outline of things they plan to implement and changes to be made.

If they would promise to work improving GoG (store/community/customer support), new website (the cheapest to do, the CEO and founders could pay it out of their back pockets) new store/community software, additional support (AI Butlers if must be - also cheap! A company in New York is offering this service for <$2000/month)) to improve the customer experience when actual person-to-person support is needed, and being open and communicate with their customers who made these companies what they are. A customer first policy, strict enforcement of rules where publishers/developers are held liable when not updating a game once updates become available, where on the other hand GoG should allow publisher/developers to deploy patches and updates without review processes (taking forever if at all). If GoG would go the extra mile to treat both a customer's website library and Galaxy as equal in terms of updates/patches and maintenance, making Galaxy what it should be: O-P-T-I-O-N-A-L instead of more and more mandatory many things currently happening could be forgotten soon.

That said the most that is going to happen to CDPR/GoG is maybe a drop in expected sales over the next year or two years for CP and not much beside. GoG isn't a very small company no one knows, whose CEO/founders got no money. They are billionaires and GoG is known the whole world over from Abu Dhabi to Mongolia! Sales will continue to be made from the store so for GoG there is no danger in sight either which way you look at the current situation.

A word to the GoG-wise: Action speaks louder than words as the saying goes. If you remain silent at least let your action speak a clear language. Keep in mind that it had better be worded in a way we would like to hear and appreciate most. Maybe then will customers regain trust and maybe then a new chapter will open up. Devot(ion) yourself to this and you will once again be everyone's darling (even though this Devotion thing is and will remain difficult to swallow ...).
Post edited December 21, 2020 by Mori_Yuki
Very doubtful. EA were fine after ME3, Battlefront II etc. No Man's Sky didn't screw the studio over nor did Sony pull it from stores. CDPR will take a hit from this no doubt but hopefully that makes them improve. I don't see it happening, sadly the marketing lies and hype train paid off for them so they will just repeat it and they are a huge company now. Publicly traded as the cherry on top to that too, meaning they are beholden to the investors first and customers second.

CP2077 hopefully changes thing as a whole. Imagine if CDPR accidentally solved marketing lies and hype manufacturing forever. Imagine if millions of gamers hold off and buy later and not right away. Its wishful thinking on my part but this blunder could turn things around.
Idk. Hope they do.
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Matruchus: The problem is not what happened with Cyberpunk 2077 release. The problem is the class action lawsuit against CD RED that's coming around in Poland by investors cause they lost a lot of income with all the fraud connected to Cyberpunk 2077 launch. This lawsuit if it comes to fruition could very well bankrupt CD RED and with it gog.
The scary part is that GOG would get the axe before CRPR, because let's be honest, GOG has been scraping by since its launch.
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Matruchus: The problem is not what happened with Cyberpunk 2077 release. The problem is the class action lawsuit against CD RED that's coming around in Poland by investors cause they lost a lot of income with all the fraud connected to Cyberpunk 2077 launch. This lawsuit if it comes to fruition could very well bankrupt CD RED and with it gog.
The 'good' thing is that the lawsuit is from investors (assuming this is legit); Their ultimate goal is to get their investment back and some profits, not bankrupting their investment vessel which will left them with almost nothing. My guess is that they just want to see some heads roll, namely to see the upper management resign or fired or go to jail.
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Catshade: ...they just want to see some heads roll, namely to see the upper management resign or fired or go to jail.
Honestly, after the buggy releases of Witcher 2&3 and now Cyberpunk, we'd all like to see that.
Did you see how many copies they sold on Steam? That doesn't include elsewhere. If anything they are rolling in the cash right now.
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Matruchus: The problem is not what happened with Cyberpunk 2077 release. The problem is the class action lawsuit against CD RED that's coming around in Poland by investors cause they lost a lot of income with all the fraud connected to Cyberpunk 2077 launch. This lawsuit if it comes to fruition could very well bankrupt CD RED and with it gog.
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MadalinStroe: The scary part is that GOG would get the axe before CRPR, because let's be honest, GOG has been scraping by since its launch.
Without knowing anything about the numbers, I doubt it. They might sell GOG off to another company but axing it all together? Highly unlikely.
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IAmBored2: With all the controversy with Cyberpunk 2077 they might actually be losing money from all the refunds. Now they have the controversy with the CCP too... can't imagine them lasting much longer in this state.
i sincerely hope so. CDPR are practically scammers and worthless fucks that cant do ANYTHING right. they dont deserve to be in business imo.
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kmanitou: Ethically bankrupt for sure.
If only CEO stood for Chief Ethical Officer, 'cause then he'd be in trouble.

Somehow I doubt the financial disaster is as bad as the PR fallout makes it out to be. Perhaps they saw this coming and went ahead with it exactly because the financial impact would be felt less this way.

You have to remember there's no such thing as bad publicity. Memes will also advertise a game beyond its target audience.

At the end of 2022 we're going to get two properly done expansions, plus a critically accclaimed GOTY edition and none will be the wiser. Part of me hopes that maybe I'm wrong and they'll be affected more and forced to change their ways... but...
Post edited December 22, 2020 by WinterSnowfall
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Catshade: I doubt that. But this fiasco is definitely bleeding them big money and I can see them post-CP2077 trying to make a quick buck instead of focusing on another big 5-6 year AAA project like The Witcher 4. Maybe they'll do that F2P Cyberpunk multiplayer game, making it battle royale with endless cosmetic MTXs.
The quick buck will come from the RTX remake of Witcher 3 that they announced a couple of months ago. No release date stated, but it's going to be their next release almost certainly. It's free for everyone who already owns the base game and expansions on any platform according to their previous announcement, but most likely will be priced at full AAA new release game price for people who don't already own it (which is perfectly fine IMHO).

It's actually quite smart for them to do this as it will rekindle everyone to play Witcher 3 again with improved graphics of the new GPU hardware, and regain some positive news for the company unless they F that up too. Call me crazy but I think they'll do ok with it.

I don't expect we'll see the Cyberpunk multiplayer game for a while if ever, as they've got to fix the single player game if they want to save face now. Even though I believe it is a different team working on the multiplayer, if they go ahead and release that in a few months time people are going to blast them for spending time working on that rather than fixing the single player game even if there are different teams of people working on each (because Joe Q Gamer can't comprehend things like this). IMHO the single player needs to be fixed and people happy with it before any new multiplayer launch stands a chance in the market without getting thrown under the bus.

I suspect after these 2 games are out the door it'll be a long time until we see a new game from CDPR, and it will likely be a new installment in The Witcher franchise, although I suspect it wont be called Witcher 4 for various reasons.

What I really want to know personally... is can they and will they fix Cyberpunk first, and then eventually make a sequel to it that releases to critical acclaim? Perhaps a sequel that is what the first game should have been? Time will tell I guess.
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Orkhepaj: "will get patched" you are just hoping you can't be sure about that, anyway how can we judge a product what it will be like in the future and why should we? If they want money for it ,they should accept our whining for it.
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timppu: Their earlier game The Witcher 3 was also very buggy on release, lots of memes online about its bugs, and they did lots of work to fix the game.

So if that is of any indication, then yes CDPR will use lots of resources to fix the game. How much they can do that (including also the last gen console versions), remains to be seen. I watch this development with interest.
Every game has bugs before, during and after release of course. It's virtually impossible to release a massive game without any bugs at all. Having said that, I played The Witcher 3 from day 1 release and while I certainly encountered bugs in the game, they were relatively few and far between compared to most other games, and IMHO Witcher 3 had less bugs in its day 1 release, than Skyrim does today even 10 years after release. Sure, there are some well known Witcher 3 bugs that became memes like Roach standing on the roof of a house and whatnot, but the game wasn't riddled with endless bugs and glitches really. My whole playthrough was one of the least buggy games I've ever played to be fair.

My experience with Cyberpunk so far, I encountered very few bugs for the first 6 days or so, mostly an item floating in the air,or a person walking through a solid object or similar, nothing major and no crashes. Every day since then I've increasingly found more bugs, some broken "can't complete quest" issues, calling my car and having it fall out of the sky and hit the road then catch on fire, then drive with no tires to the curb (I have a screenshot, epic funny that one was), and a multitude of other issues some that are "you gotta see it to believe it" epic fail bugs. Granted a lot of the bugs are hilariously funny and made me laugh so hard, but while I appreciate the entertainment of that - none of us paid to be entertained by epic fail bugs either. :)

If I add to this the multitude of bugs I've seen others post video clips of online the game looks like it is actually significantly buggier than Skyrim TBH.

The real question ultimately is "Will they fix this significantly broken game and redeem themselves and the game over the coming weeks/months/years?" Deep down inside I want to believe the answer is yes, but I can't put that much faith into believing it will happen until I see it happen. They should have the resources to do this now, but will they? Their longevity might swing on it, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Kelefane: Did you see how many copies they sold on Steam? That doesn't include elsewhere. If anything they are rolling in the cash right now.
missing some 101 math??

you know how much money it cost to have people work on a project for 84 months with 700 employers?
if they investors win the cause it will hurt CDPR a lot really a lot.

might even be so damaging they not have the resources to ever work on a project again.
also what people might miss is that investors likely not gonna invest in the company again (might) which reduce cashflow.
Post edited December 22, 2020 by Abishia