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_ChaosFox_: ... * It's also not uncommon for major "faceless" enterprises to try and bribe their current staff into positively rating the company on employer rating websites. I've actually been asked by a couple of companies that I've worked for (not dev studios) to rate their companies higher in exchange for higher rates....
You could have done that, taken the higher rate and then anonymously denounce them twice as hard for trying to cheat.

I guess that we should be under no illusion that CDPR is a nice company in any way. It's just a company like every other company, maybe worse maybe better, that is difficult to tell without good statistics. So far, this is more rumors.

If in the end Cyberpunk is a great game, customers will buy it and enjoy it and pay stupendous amounts of money for it, regardless of how it was produced. The owners of CDPR will be very satisfied.

But maybe customers should take employee satisfaction into account. Only buy games from publishers where employees are happy. Sounds a bit difficult to do overall.
Post edited September 19, 2017 by Trilarion
If somebody interested, here's the rating for GOG.com:

https://www.glassdoor.de/Bewertungen/GOG-com-Bewertungen-E827105.htm?countryRedirect=true
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richlind33: ...The only reason this company isn't going bust ...
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Trilarion: At the same time stock price is at a record high. Someone must be getting something quite wrong here.
Stock price reflects short term expectations, so the two are not mutually exclusive. What it *does* mean, IMO, is that the future will consist of projects like GWENT, rather than projects of the magnitude of The Witcher.
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Trilarion: Wait, a video about someone who reads you stuff from web sites? No thanks, I can read myself. At the same time stock price is at a record high. Someone must be getting something quite wrong here.
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_ChaosFox_: Yeah, this is the problem with a lot of web journalism these days. Most "journalists" produce nothing except op-eds, unreliable rumours and articles based on publicly-available web sources. Even many sites purporting to be "investigative" are usually pushing an agenda. Real investigative journalism is actually quite rare.

Watching films like All the President's Men and Spotlight makes me quite nostalgic about it, truth be told.
I couldn't agree more. It's not just web journalism, it's mainstream media as well, who seem quite happy to regurgitate something they read online and report it as fact.

There's no integrity, or appetite for proper journalism these days. All news is perverted by the wishes of the owner, or in the BBC's case, the board of directors. The ones that won't call a terrorist a terrorist.
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PaterAlf: If somebody interested, here's the rating for GOG.com:

https://www.glassdoor.de/Bewertungen/GOG-com-Bewertungen-E827105.htm?countryRedirect=true
Interesting. Two things struck me here:

"Lack of complex IT systems enforces usage of manual control over most of procedures."

To anyone familiar with this website, this should come as no surprise.

"Polish employees often switch to Polish in conversations, despite people who don't speak Polish being around."

Maybe it's just me, but even in a multicultural environment, isn't it perfectly reasonable to expect the lingua franca of the host country to be used by default? I've never understood this corporate obsession with anglifying work environments. If you're in Poland, it's reasonable that you should be expected to speak or at least learn Polish.
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richlind33: Which is exactly why someone like YongYea is a valuable resource. He's an analyst, not a showman
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MadalinStroe: Again, I have nothing bad to say about YongYea, I'm just hoping that he or somebody else follows up on the story, and brings proper sources, and not just 30 reviews on a website.

30 reviews is a staring point, I'm more interested in somebody digging deeper than that.
Anecdotal information is anecdotal information: no, it isn't as good as other types of information, but it is far from being worthless. As YongYea notes, it's troubling because there are *other* indications that something isn't right, such as the silence re Cyberpunk 2077 five years into development.
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richlind33: Anecdotal information is anecdotal information: no, it isn't as good as other types of information, but it is far from being worthless.
Just for my peace of mind, I'll try to make this clearer. I have taken great care to acknowledge YongYea's efforts, and have repeatedly posted here, that I hope for some follow up pieces based on proper sources. I have never dismissed the information as worthless.

I can't believe I'm having this much problems getting my point across.
Post edited September 19, 2017 by MadalinStroe
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richlind33: Anecdotal information is anecdotal information: no, it isn't as good as other types of information, but it is far from being worthless.
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MadalinStroe: Just for my peace of mind, I'll try to make this clearer. I have taken great care to acknowledge YongYea's efforts, and have repeatedly posted here, that I hope for some follow up pieces based on proper sources. I have never dismissed the information as worthless.
I understand that, I'm just saying that from my perspective we are already past the "starting point", as there are other indications that something is amiss.

A small distinction, but I think it is important, and I apologize if you are offended.
Post edited September 19, 2017 by richlind33
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MadalinStroe: Just for my peace of mind, I'll try to make this clearer. I have taken great care to acknowledge YongYea's efforts, and have repeatedly posted here, that I hope for some follow up pieces based on proper sources. I have never dismissed the information as worthless.
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richlind33: I understand that, I'm just saying that from my perspective, we are already past the "starting point", as there are other indications that something is amiss. A small distinction, but I think it is important, and I apologize if you are offended.
I wasn't offended, I was frustrated, because as I kept posting, I was getting a feeling that I might end up being quoted, as if I might be dismissive.

It's okay, forget about it.
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richlind33: I understand that, I'm just saying that from my perspective, we are already past the "starting point", as there are other indications that something is amiss. A small distinction, but I think it is important, and I apologize if you are offended.
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MadalinStroe: I wasn't offended, I was frustrated, because as I kept posting, I was getting a feeling that I might end up being quoted, as if I might be dismissive.

It's okay, forget about it.
It wasn't the best choice of words on my part. Point taken. : )
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Trilarion: Wait, a video about someone who reads you stuff from web sites? No thanks, I can read myself. At the same time stock price is at a record high. Someone must be getting something quite wrong here.
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_ChaosFox_: Yeah, this is the problem with a lot of web journalism these days. Most "journalists" produce nothing except op-eds, unreliable rumours and articles based on publicly-available web sources. Even many sites purporting to be "investigative" are usually pushing an agenda. Real investigative journalism is actually quite rare.

Watching films like All the President's Men and Spotlight makes me quite nostalgic about it, truth be told.
Very true... funny enough that many people seem to think that 'citizens journalism' could fix the perceived shortcomings of regular journalism when the concept of 'citizens journalism' or web journalism in itself just embodies the disregard for quality standards and professionalism. Good journalism certainly needs training and resources.

The discontent with management, overtime and low wages sounds believable though.
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_ChaosFox_: Maybe it's just me, but even in a multicultural environment, isn't it perfectly reasonable to expect the lingua franca of the host country to be used by default? I've never understood this corporate obsession with anglifying work environments. If you're in Poland, it's reasonable that you should be expected to speak or at least learn Polish.
I don't know what things are like in other non-english speaking countires, but in Poland the result is most corporate workers (and I mean native polish people) start speaking this weird "polglish" hybrid, something like polish but with nouns and adjectives borrowed from english and altered to fit polish grammar. And of course no one outside that corporate culture can understand a damn thing they're saying. I sometimes wonder if different corporations developed different dialects of this and if they can communicate with each other.
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_ChaosFox_: Maybe it's just me, but even in a multicultural environment, isn't it perfectly reasonable to expect the lingua franca of the host country to be used by default? I've never understood this corporate obsession with anglifying work environments. If you're in Poland, it's reasonable that you should be expected to speak or at least learn Polish.
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Breja: I don't know what things are like in other non-english speaking countires, but in Poland the result is most corporate workers (and I mean native polish people) start speaking this weird "polglish" hybrid, something like polish but with nouns and adjectives borrowed from english and altered to fit polish grammar. And of course no one outside that corporate culture can understand a damn thing they're saying. I sometimes wonder if different corporations developed different dialects of this and if they can communicate with each other.
That happens in the entirety of Sweden, not just specific multicultural environments.
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_ChaosFox_: Maybe it's just me, but even in a multicultural environment, isn't it perfectly reasonable to expect the lingua franca of the host country to be used by default? I've never understood this corporate obsession with anglifying work environments. If you're in Poland, it's reasonable that you should be expected to speak or at least learn Polish.
It's not an average job at a random polish office. GOG is an international company that explicitly wants people from all over the world. And the default language on GOG.com is English, too. The job requirement doesn't mention Polish, but "English. Be able to easily communicate in an English speaking office." Apparantly many people just stayed for 2-3 years. I think it's reasonable to expect that these people would pick up a little Polish for everyday communication, but not that they speak or understand Polish at work. In this scenario, I think the person was right to complain about Polish co-workers taking the easy way out in an "English speaking office" without any consideration for their international colleagues.
Post edited September 19, 2017 by Leroux
Question :

How do we know that this site isn't full of Bullshit? I mean how can it verify that those people actually worked there?

Another question :

I understand that long crunch times are tiring, but what the fuck do you expect a company to do if they want to release a game that is as bug-free as it can get?
WTF?