I'm waiting to see what happens.

I'm 99% sure this was a mis-yeet. I wasn't expecting GR to pull the classic (and it's a classic, I've used it myself) "VOTE, I THINK THIS IS L-1 WHOOPS WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT WAS HAMMER" move.

I think I have a decent idea of what's going on with the setup

Which is to say, I'm pretty sure I have it 100% figured out

I forgot just how janky and broken GOG setups are

And, quite frankly, I dislike the idea of a twilight phase (post hammer, pre end-of-day), it just seems... unforummafia-ish

I disagree that Catte claimed before GR. Catte said something ambiguous and allusive to maybe get me lynched, but without committing to a claim until GR did it. This is important for me. Only after GR said he was psychoanalyst then Catte said he was the 3rd psychoanalyst.

I might be tunnelling but don't let ZFR off the hook because he's still at play.

Yes, we are all whimsical oops people around here, I see XD

I didn't trust myself to do the votecount also being on top if I made a mistake it would have looked really bad

I suspect of everyone except pooka who tried to calm down the situation with me a ZFR, I think that was town-like.
I don't think much of Micro.

ZDR and Lift are a mistery to me.

You and Catte were probably just too hasty and there could be multiple roles.

I don't like the idea of lynching town just to take people off a list now, of you can use your powers to investigate the situation I think we are better off.

Anyway, Lift, ZFR and Lift remain my top suspects and I would investigate them if I could. I should have played more low-profile.

You know this isn't true. Post 305 indicates that you correctly interpreted post 304 as a counterclaim. I can see how someone might have missed it sure, but you definitely didn't miss it.

That's quite a backpedal from you considering the very next post after my claim was you going "ahah LOL because you are scum and are counter-claiming my role just as I had predicted ahah".

So you immediately saw it as a claim then, it's only some time later that you've backpedalled and decided that it wasn't.

Yeah, after GR's claim hammer (or "clammer") I'm inclined to believe that Dogmaus was telling the truth about being a psychoanalyst.


I don't quite have your level of confidence but I think I know what's going on.


Hey! No one promised you a functioning setup.

I don't think the twilight is a deliberate phase, Joe's just forgotten about the game again. Twilight is just a natural consequence of the lag between hammer and the mod turning up to write up the lynch. The only thing different here is the unusual length of time.

How the hell is this Day still going on? I had a full Day at work and didn't bother to check since I expected that it would be Night by now.

@Joe: where are you?

Fine, let's do some twilight.

Seriously? You're trying to make up a scum accusation out of this? Don't you even notice how ridiculous that is? I asked you how you 'knew' that there would be a counter claim because you predicted it AND bragged about that you predicted it. And then you pretend that the question how you could predict it is scummy? Sure...


Oho! I'm even in that list twice! Does that mean that, if ZFR turns out to be Town, you suspect me of being a team with myself? ;-)


Well, I won't discuss roles and mechanics now, before the Night. I think speculating now would help Scum more than Town. Just one side note to @GR: while you were right about my alignment on D1, your reason to suspect me was wrong. Read my explanation again, keeping in mind when it was written. Then you will see what I mean.

that was said jokingly and a ? is missing, so you are claiming scum?!
you never answered and then GR claimed before you, you threw the rock and hid the hand. Then you could have just given any reason why you said you thought I was lying. Also, you didn't claim but said that my claim was fake. Even if you were psychoanalyst, how would you know that my claim was fake? You didn't claim but just lied about me saying that I am not psychoanalyst. So don't try to make it look differently now, it's too late. If you wanted to claim before GR you had to do it, now it's too late.

"you've backpedalled and decided that it wasn't"
I haven't backpedalled, it's you who never claimed, you just went missing and claimed after GR

"Seriously? You're trying to make up a scum accusation out of this? Don't you even notice how ridiculous that is? "
No, ZFR tried to force ME to claim. I say that I don't like it because I think scum will counterclaim. ZFR says that is impossible. After I claim someone says "I know you are lying do you know why" and I answer the question with a laugh. Now if scum!GR or scum!Catte are counterclaiming is ZFR and Bookwyrm fault, but also your accusations are weird. Also, as I am psychoanalyst, I am town, so why you keep attacking me? It looks bad. I am not making scum accusations, but it's weird that you keep building castles of cards around me even now. How come I can't make Town take notice of your weird beheaviour, and anybody elses, before JS declares me lynched and the night begins?
I suspect of everyone.

" AND bragged about that you predicted it"
it seems I have a better intuition than more experienced players

"Oho! I'm even in that list twice!"
you know I could not edit. The other is Yog, but again I suspect of everyone, with Pooka and Micro giving me less reasons.

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If you knew my record in these games(of things like being able to sus out scum easily, etc) like some do here, you'd realize that's not too unusual for me. That said, of course players should take any claims I make with the usual grain of sodium chloride until/unless I can prove myself to be town somehow.

Eh, I think short ones are fine. Normally they aren't this long.....but our game mod is afk somewhere and seems to have gotten lost....maybe he's hang gliding in the amazon searching for penguins? o.0

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Catte didn't exactly come out and say he was claiming psychoanalyst in Post 304, but I feel he was more or less claiming said role in said post.

But 3(or more) psychoanalysts in the same game? Really? Especially when Joe had so many roles to choose from to populate the game?

Tbh, either way i'd have likely voted you for that claim in Post 300, as even in this bastardy bizarro world game I don't see it being too likely to have 3 of the same roles in one game. That said, I should've checked the vote count before voting...ah well, live and learn.

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As for Lift: I will likely check out Lift, Yog, or Book for N1...maybe I will find out something interesting.

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I know what you mean.....I could've done a round of tax filing in the time we've waited.

Question: as long as I achieve the desired result(find/vote/hammer/etc scum), does it truly matter as much if I get to it/get there by right or wrong reasons?

Aside: that's part of why I ended up voting/hammering Dogmaus so quickly...I forgot for a bit that the usual "if someone claims a town player's role, they are likely scum making a fake claim" thing might not apply here.

Please elaborate. A ? is missing from where? In what way am I claiming scum?

I stated I didn't believe your claim and posed the question of why I might not believe it. The very next post was you correctly interpreting it as a counter-claim. If you considered it a counter-claim then, why not now?

You're not really making any new points, so I'm not going to reply to you on this subject again unless you do.

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you say I correctly interpreted you saying I'm not a psychologist when I replied jokingly. I replied "because you are scum and counter-claiming (?)". A ? was missing, I thought it was also clear where I was going, that I was right it would happen despite ZFR lies that was impossible. When you say I interpreted you correctly then you are unwillingly imply that you are admitting to be scum - following your logic that my joke was right. You don't have to answer! If you are scum, well played!

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I mean on one hand, it's sad that Joe had to be busy. But on another I'm honestly unsure why we're surprised. This isn't the first time Joe has gone MIA for a while, and it won't be the last either.

But I'm sure he'll be back. <3

I actually saw Joe yesterday and mentioned the game, but it wasn't really an appropriate time for him to do anything about it at that point. Hopefully he'll get to it some time today though, now he's aware there's been a hammer.