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Posted April 30, 2018
Activity Feed • Gameplay Stats • Personalization


UPDATE: We've added a new option to the Privacy settings in GOG Profiles - from now on you can turn off your profile on GOG entirely, so no one can see any kind of information that is shown on the profile page. This also means that when you turn off your profile, you won’t be visible on your friends’ friends lists, even if they decide to keep their profiles visible.
The option to enable/disable your GOG Profile can be found in your account „Privacy & Settings” options, under „Privacy” tab.



We just introduced a new feature on GOG.COM: User Profiles – a social way to share what you and your friends are up to. See what your friends on GOG are playing, achieving, and sharing across four sections – Feed, Profile, Games and Friends.

Your Feed is the centerpiece of your Profile. Here, you’ll see which games your friends have been playing, all sorts of achievements and milestones, as well as general thoughts, screenshots, and forum activity. You can dispense your approval at whim and share your own stuff as well!

Your Profile is all about you and your gaming accomplishments. It's a summary of your activity, like the time you've spent in your games , your latest achievements (and just how rare they are among other users), as well as a glimpse at what your most active friends have been up to.

If you want to know more about your Games, you need to hit the the third tab. It contains a list of all the games you own on GOG, together with stats like time spent in-game and your progress towards unlocking the achievements. Sort the list, compare stats with your friends, and get some healthy competition going.

Finally – your Friends: get a general summary of their achievements and hours played. Here you'll also see which games are the most popular among your friends right now, so you can join them in multiplayer or find something you might enjoy yourself.

Of course, your profile comes with some sweet personalization options, choose a wallpaper from your game collection and share a few words with the world.

User Profiles are available for all GOG.COM users. Your personal gameplay stats like achievements, time played and milestones depend on GOG Galaxy, but if you’re not using the optional client you can still use the feed, post in it and interact with your friends.

Launching profiles also means adding new privacy settings on our end. You'll find three new Privacy options in your account's „Privacy & settings” area. These settings allow you to set the visibility for your profile summary, your games, your friends, etc.
So what are you waiting for? There's so much room for activities!
Posted April 28, 2018
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HypersomniacLive: So, claiming that the votes this one has accumulated in the past five days because people are easily motivated by anger comes across as bias at best.
No it isn't because anger is a strong motivator and one of the strongest motivations of all. Saying "I like something" or "would be happy to see something" does not motivate like "I'm angry at something".

Trying to equate anger as the same as any other emotion is what comes off as biased. I also never seen forum post after forum post asking people to vote for profiles either, especially in the context of a few days, but hey if you want to research and point them out by all means.

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HypersomniacLive: And right after saying that you think comparing number/progression of votes is pointless, you take it upon you to link to the wishlist entry that has more votes accumulated in a shorter time-frame...

Again, you can't have it both ways.
Yea to point out the other wish exist for people that might not be aware. Or did you not notice that I never once directly or indirectly made any type of comparison between profile votes vs disable profile votes myself. Context matters, so maybe look at that before your going to claim someobdy wants "it both ways".

I could care less about what has what votes... as I said it's pointless. But if people are going to argue over it it at-least be accurate.
Post edited April 28, 2018 by BKGaming
Posted April 28, 2018
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White_Barry: I think the analogy of the threat of gentrification to an old neighborhood is apt.
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toxicTom: We kind of had that already when Witcher 3 hit big. Suddenly a lot more people here, and sadly among them a lot of scammers and trolls too. Has since gotten better though.
Yeah, but if this succeeds and they add more features and improvements (which given how basic it is they must) it's going to change Gog radically.
Posted April 28, 2018
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BKGaming: I also never seen forum post after forum post asking people to vote for profiles either, especially in the context of a few days, but hey if you want to research and point them out by all means.
The difference is, data is leaking NOW. It's kind of urgent to stop this, because that genie will never go back into the bottle. The longer the profiles are unprotected like that, the longer totally strange people and companies (not "trusted partner") can siphon from here. And there are probably thousands of account which haven't even noticed they have a public profile now and are still with the default settings, which are not "maximum protection".
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toxicTom: We kind of had that already when Witcher 3 hit big. Suddenly a lot more people here, and sadly among them a lot of scammers and trolls too. Has since gotten better though.
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White_Barry: Yeah, but if this succeeds and they add more features and improvements (which given how basic it is they must) it's going to change Gog radically.
Can't stop change, I want GoG to challenge steam, even if it makes some of the community uncomfortable it has to happen.Just imagine when GoG releases Cyberpunk on here and it has online.Yeah, it's going to be BIG changes soon.
Posted April 28, 2018
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White_Barry: [...] they have every right to be annoyed but it's such a radical departure from the way the "community" part of this site has functioned it's reasonable to surmise that privacy issues aside, a lot of people don't like the change this could bring to Gog. I think the analogy of the threat of gentrification to an old neighborhood is apt.
My experience with GOG's community has been above average but still normal. Except from maybe three to six users (in over a year) I hadn't have a go back where you came from vibe. (One of them being homophobic/transphobic, another one was literally telling a third user to kill themselves. Good times... -.-)
I have perceived "older" users as forthcoming and helpful, albeit a bit tired when explaining some of the undocumented pitfalls of the site and forum. And they can't be everywhere, so it might take a while to get answers from the community, rather than from the support staff. In the last 6 months that kind of equalized with support taking longer and longer to dig through to tickets. I guess the number of buggy releases increased or the number of people in the support staff was reduced...
Posted April 28, 2018
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morning coffee musings brought on by this thread....

im the kind of person who has everything turned off on facebook, remove myself from tags and doesnt post, (its only there for emergency family contact cuz its great for group updates for emergencies and fast updating) I also read all the permissions for each app and blah blah blah, try to liimit sharing of info everywhere and so on. like alot of peeps i worry about how that info is being used and only now are people waking up to the fact that computer algorithms are running the world. yes, running. not to be alarmist but that dull data being aggregated is affecting everything; prices you pay for insurance, mortgages, consumer items, whether you can get any of those above, job offers, rental leases, what areas you can live in and on and on.

barn door is long open and far too late to shut.

im glad and cursed to be of an age where privacy was real and expected. when you could buy items with cash without submitting to crevice body searches or suspicious stares from bank tellers, when there were bank tellers, when you could get on planes without being scanned. when you could be totally anonymous if you wanted but it wasnt something you wanted, it just happened. theres a whole generation now that doesnt expect that, that is conditioned to think its normal to be snooped on every aspect of their life. that kinda freaks me out and depresses me.

so back to the topic, i feel all those that are alarmed and irate of the lack of total privacy settings. on the surface it seems so benign, who cares about gaming habits and expenditures, but we all know its not just that. its the computer collating all that data which is sold somewhere down the line going to affect what we see and pay for gaming or other lifestyle choices. the fact that its gog, someone we trusted for our entertainment in a way that we never would expect from steam is sad

you can look at it two ways, the coders missed a few backdoors in the privacy settings and will fix it , or they didnt care and just went with the now common standard data aggregation rule of thumb, set permissions open at default and allow for data mining.

i recently set up a new facebook acct to handle a game i play which required it, didnt want it on my real facebook. within 5 seconds it automatically gave me most of my contact list from suggestions of who i may know. on other fronts, even though i clear history and google activity or browse with privacy I still get updates for vids i watched long ago.

fukkit
ive given up. cant do it anymore, the constant battle to turn off snooping on everything. heres my boring profile. take it for a drink before you undress it and peek at my underthings
Posted April 28, 2018
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HeartsAndRainbows: I have perceived "older" users as forthcoming and helpful, albeit a bit tired when explaining some of the undocumented pitfalls of the site and forum.
We gladly do it, it just gets a bit repetitive... ;-) Mind the gaps, please wear a helmet and remember "Safety first".
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HeartsAndRainbows: I have perceived "older" users as forthcoming and helpful, albeit a bit tired when explaining some of the undocumented pitfalls of the site and forum.
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toxicTom: We gladly do it, it just gets a bit repetitive... ;-) Mind the gaps, please wear a helmet and remember "Safety first".
I know. It's a position I'm in for several months now. "Please don't wait for the community to sort out why your game is crashing without even telling them your OS - ask the support now.", "You have to have reputation 7+ in order to post urls or embed links. You get more reputation by...", "That's what we call a duplicate here in the community wishlist. Please use the search function. Also, that's a game and not a site feature...", "Keep calm. 'Nobody' wants the new profiles to go away. They just want them to be private by default and want to be able to hide all their (previously private) information. That's all, really. Please read the posts you're protesting against.", "Forget about the gap - don't get caught by those bloody doors..." and so on. ;)
Posted April 28, 2018
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gamesfreak64: 1 in 5 ? thats 20% i assume cause 5 in 5 = 100% so 1 should be 20% ? or is it 10% ?

Anyway like you said it's early and new customers ( especially younger generations and maybe lots of oldies who think they are still young) will have them open to anyone so it might end in 20% closed and 80% open because of the 'gazillions' of new arivals....

Somehow this reminds of some discussions on the internet regarding people and who they vote for, they often used the word 'voting cattle' because govts would let in people who would vote for them...
similar things apply to many shows be it live or online, many 'people' will applaude for anything even if someone farts they'd applaude for it because they were paid for it or told to do so.
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White_Barry: Are you suggesting Gog will pay people to use the new profile system or give praise to it? Not very likely. It would appear they've brought it on line as early as possible, hence the lack of features. The Polish are a very maverick people. They were the first nation to have a successful revolution against the tyranny of socialism imposed on them after WW2. It's in their nature to take risks, often with suprising results. At first I was skeptical about this new profile system but then I realized what they are doing. And of course some of the tiny handful of Gog customers who use the forums here are upset - it's as though some shiny new tract mansions are going up nearby and the old neighborhood.suddenly feels threatened.
nope ........ i am not cause that would come out sooner or later if they would.
I'm talking about getting the people that love gimmicks and gazillion infos in profiles to be hared around the and with the world... there's an audience for everything, just a matter of finding them.

Don't know if anyone feels threatened i dont feel threatened at all :D
I only know things have changed and more changes will come but not for the better, may joined GOG because GOG was NOT like the rest.

I joined because i knew all the others ( steam gamersgate and the rest) and what they did and collect regarding data from users, BUT that was told everywhere, 'millions' of posts about these sites that they used user info and collected data but at least we knew that:: with GOG we did not thats why many joined back then because they were one of a kind back then.

A few days ago they 'joined' the others regarding collecting and publicly sharing data ( which can be turned off at many sites like Steam ,Gamersgate and more) so thats why i am a little bit sad all, nothing more nothing less.
Posted April 28, 2018
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White_Barry: [...]And of course some of the tiny handful of Gog customers who use the forums here are upset - it's as though some shiny new tract mansions are going up nearby and the old neighborhood.suddenly feels threatened.
I'm not a forum regular. The issue isn't gentrification or "my turf"ing.

The issue is that a company to whom I am a customer proved untrustworthy when it comes to handling my personal data in a way that quite possibly violates the GDPR in addition to that breach of trust.
Posted April 28, 2018
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HypersomniacLive: So, claiming that the votes this one has accumulated in the past five days because people are easily motivated by anger comes across as bias at best.
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BKGaming: No it isn't because anger is a strong motivator and one of the strongest motivations of all. Saying "I like something" or "would be happy to see something" does not motivate like "I'm angry at something".

Trying to equate anger as the same as any other emotion is what comes off as biased. I also never seen forum post after forum post asking people to vote for profiles either, especially in the context of a few days, but hey if you want to research and point them out by all means.

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HypersomniacLive: And right after saying that you think comparing number/progression of votes is pointless, you take it upon you to link to the wishlist entry that has more votes accumulated in a shorter time-frame...

Again, you can't have it both ways.
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BKGaming: Yea to point out the other wish exist for people that might not be aware. Or did you not notice that I never once directly or indirectly made any type of comparison between profile votes vs disable profile votes myself. Context matters, so maybe look at that before your going to claim someobdy wants "it both ways".

I could care less about what has what votes... as I said it's pointless. But if people are going to argue over it it at-least be accurate.
People can and will argue about anything thats why they are people (humans)
Digital data can be good or bad. use it but dont overuse it

Bad examples of digital

If votes are only digital.... : (100101010001010101010 ) on/of
they can be changed very easy ... :D

example of a very bad thing to change into digital: 'real cash'

Using only digital cash would be a disaster: it would be fast: no lines, no waiting , etc etc etc

Imagine a disaster:

no power ? : no servers, no internet , : nothing at all

oops also no cash ... meaning:

no food
no water
no medication
and the list is endless

Wet money can be dried and used , if the computers shortcircuit because of water try to get cash when there is no power to connect the apps to the bank :D

People hate paper archives: too large, too much time to find the info you need, too many trees are needed and that is a waste ( but what about millions of trees burning and polluting the country? by wildfires or even by fire set on by people ,now thats a waste)


So (digital) progress is not always good or even wanted :D
it depends on its use. Use it but don't overuse it and do not depend solely on it.
Posted April 28, 2018
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HeartsAndRainbows: I know. It's a position I'm in for several months now....
*hugs* :-)
Posted April 28, 2018
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White_Barry: Yeah, but if this succeeds and they add more features and improvements (which given how basic it is they must) it's going to change Gog radically.
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coreyblueexclusive: Can't stop change, I want GoG to challenge steam, even if it makes some of the community uncomfortable it has to happen.Just imagine when GoG releases Cyberpunk on here and it has online.Yeah, it's going to be BIG changes soon.
So to challenge Steam it is okay for GOG to turn into a Steam clone but in a GOG style ? client, drm. always online to play a game and more.....

Fight fire with fire ? Dirty Harry style : GoG: " Go ahead Steam ... make my game ? " :D
thats not the way i'm afraid .... :D


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White_Barry: ... it's as thought some shiny new tract mansions are going up nearby and the old neighborhood.suddenly feels threatened.
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toxicTom: No it's as though we're now all forced to have doors of glass. And the curtain they provided is pretty skimpy.
Glass curtains ? :D some hide something but many shine through , mostly white curtains sometimes dark or black but they are usualy white.
Post edited April 28, 2018 by gamesfreak64
Posted April 28, 2018
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We still have not yet seen any comments from gog here but maybe we will get some more international reactions by the start of next week.

Since the publication of customer data without the consent of these customers IS a criminal activity I suggest we send as many e-mails and complaints as possible to our national data protection offices - here is again a contact list
http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/article29/document.cfm?action=display&doc_id=50061

If you care to write your complaints and ask for following up on this behaviour of gog with all means possible under your national and European data protection laws we may increase the pressure on gog.

For your convenience: the pdf file in the link above contains these e-mail addresses - feel free to use as many of them as you like :-)

dsb@dsb.gv.at
commission@privacycommission.be
kzld@cpdp.bg
azop@azop.hr
commissioner@dataprotection.gov.cy
posta@uoou.cz
poststelle@bfdi.bund.de
dt@datatilsynet.dk
info@aki.ee
tietosuoja@om.fi
contact@dpa.gr
peterfalvi.attila@naih.hu
info@dataprotection.ie
garante@garanteprivacy.it
info@dvi.gov.lv
ada@ada.lt
info@cnpd.lu
commissioner.dataprotection@gov.mt
info@autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl
kancelaria@giodo.gov.pl
desiwm@giodo.gov.pl
geral@cnpd.pt
anspdcp@dataprotection.ro
statny.dozor@pdp.gov.sk
internacional@agpd.es
datainspektionen@datainspektionen.se
international.team@ico.org.uk
postur@personuvernd.is
info.dss@llv.li
postkasse@datatilsynet.no
contact20@edoeb.admin.ch

Again and as a precaution - as I have been informed by SpiderFighter that this might be seen as such - this is NOT a recruiting list, just a list of e-mail addresses of national data protection agencies/offices.

Maybe add a link to the forums
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/introducing_gog_profiles_a393f/page1
and to the feature request
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/disable_view_profile_function_for_customers_who_care_for_their_privacy
to make them more aware of the fact how many concerned users are currently ignored by gog.com who continues to publish our data in unwanted profiles without our consent!
Post edited April 28, 2018 by RainbowDragon
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RainbowDragon: We still have not yet seen any comments from gog here but maybe we will get some more international reactions by the start of next week.

Since the publication of customer data without the consent of these customers IS a criminal activity I suggest we send as many e-mails and complaints as possible to our national data protection offices - here is again a contact list
http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/article29/document.cfm?action=display&doc_id=50061

If you care to write your complaints and ask for following up on this behaviour of gog with all means possible under your national and European data protection laws we may increase the pressure on gog.

For your convenience: the pdf file in the link above contains these e-mail addresses - feel free to use as many of them as you like :-)

dsb@dsb.gv.at
commission@privacycommission.be
kzld@cpdp.bg
azop@azop.hr
commissioner@dataprotection.gov.cy
posta@uoou.cz
poststelle@bfdi.bund.de
dt@datatilsynet.dk
info@aki.ee
tietosuoja@om.fi
contact@dpa.gr
peterfalvi.attila@naih.hu
info@dataprotection.ie
garante@garanteprivacy.it
info@dvi.gov.lv
ada@ada.lt
info@cnpd.lu
commissioner.dataprotection@gov.mt
info@autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl
kancelaria@giodo.gov.pl
desiwm@giodo.gov.pl
geral@cnpd.pt
anspdcp@dataprotection.ro
statny.dozor@pdp.gov.sk
internacional@agpd.es
datainspektionen@datainspektionen.se
international.team@ico.org.uk
postur@personuvernd.is
info.dss@llv.li
postkasse@datatilsynet.no
contact20@edoeb.admin.ch

Again and as a precaution - as I have been informed by SpiderFighter that this might be seen as such - this is NOT a recruiting list, just a list of e-mail addresses of national data protection agencies/offices.

Maybe add a link to the forums
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/introducing_gog_profiles_a393f/page1
and to the feature request
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/disable_view_profile_function_for_customers_who_care_for_their_privacy
to make them more aware of the fact how many concerned users are currently ignored by gog.com who continues to publish our data in unwanted profiles without our consent!
Yours is worrisome. I agree that gog should allow profile data to be private but most users are not going to waste time with what you are trying because we are sure that cd projeck is already working on solving this problem.

And now I ask you:

-You have written a thousand messages with the same thing, but when other users asked for achievements, profiles, or added a game, you scolded them, why do we have to put up with you now?

-When several users in a post asked you to add achievements to a game, you and some other user would reject them, why do we have to endure that now you can do what you forbid others?

-Many users left the forums of gog.com for a small group of users among which you were and now you are doing everything you have criticized so many users, why?

-You belong to the small group of users that wanted to prohibit others the achievements, profiles, cloud save ... when you did not cause any problems and now we have to put up with the one they are setting up for something that is going to solve

Gog.com had to take action with people like you a long time ago, now the forum would be a place of many and not of a few users

And I repeat gog must immediately improve the privacy options but it seems to me an absolute bullshit that you are rolling. Let's see if you learn to respect all people, including those who do not think like you.

By the way, on the wish list I voted for privacy, and I do not want to annoy other users so they do not have that option as you have tried with many of us
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