Posted December 18, 2015
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djranis
Booze
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From Canada
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JDelekto
Handler Level 2
Registered: Apr 2013
From United States
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted December 18, 2015
Some games have karma systems that punish you if you steal. Ultima 4-6, for example. (Yes, I know that isn't a complete sentence.)
Of course, in Ultima 5, there is a place with some treasure that's worth stealing, especially (unlike in Ultima 6) you can keep gaining karma endlessly.
Of course, in Ultima 5, there is a place with some treasure that's worth stealing, especially (unlike in Ultima 6) you can keep gaining karma endlessly.
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Rottencorpsex
New User
Registered: Sep 2015
From Ukraine
Posted December 18, 2015
I like Gothic in that regard. where you can steal and carry absolutely everything.
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JDelekto
Handler Level 2
Registered: Apr 2013
From United States
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markrichardb
Games Writer
Registered: Apr 2012
From United Kingdom
Posted December 18, 2015
One thing that’s always bothered me was looting cemeteries. Especially in games where the dead are rising. Gee, it’s almost as if they’re mad some jackhole is bumbling around the catacombs and prying off their gold fillings. How does my Paladin justify this?
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JDelekto
Handler Level 2
Registered: Apr 2013
From United States
Posted December 18, 2015
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However, there was a little US flag on one grave that I took, because after having pledged allegiance to it for so long, I thought it would be cool to have one of my own. (Mind you, I was 7 years old at the time.) I feel bad for having taken it.
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Donkixotis
New User
Registered: Jun 2013
From Greece
Posted December 18, 2015
well,it's not my fault if no one's trying to stop me.
The only time i don't steal is,when there is some form of consequences for it like guards attacking you or bad karma or if you're lawful good.Old rpgs didn't have that though,so i'm used to rummaging :).Why not steal though?Between all the crap you find,there's always a jar in a house that contains a [Warrior's helmet+5] or an item that increases your HP by 200.
The video reminded me of another old video called 'cliche quest' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBd8ydC0_IM
The only time i don't steal is,when there is some form of consequences for it like guards attacking you or bad karma or if you're lawful good.Old rpgs didn't have that though,so i'm used to rummaging :).Why not steal though?Between all the crap you find,there's always a jar in a house that contains a [Warrior's helmet+5] or an item that increases your HP by 200.
The video reminded me of another old video called 'cliche quest' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBd8ydC0_IM
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Rottencorpsex
New User
Registered: Sep 2015
From Ukraine
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JDelekto
Handler Level 2
Registered: Apr 2013
From United States
Posted December 18, 2015
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The only time i don't steal is,when there is some form of consequences for it like guards attacking you or bad karma or if you're lawful good.Old rpgs didn't have that though,so i'm used to rummaging :).Why not steal though?Between all the crap you find,there's always a jar in a house that contains a [Warrior's helmet+5] or an item that increases your HP by 200.
The video reminded me of another old video called 'cliche quest' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBd8ydC0_IM
There are some people who believe it's better to ask for forgiveness while there are others who believe it's better to ask for permission. I'm of the latter sort and it's worked quite well for me.
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Sabin_Stargem
Eldritch Being
Registered: Jun 2009
From Other
Posted December 18, 2015
I am looking forward to the day where I can pick up the ultimate version of Fallout 4. From what I hear, you can break down small buildings as loot... *drool*
Yes, I am afflicted with kleptomania. I don't care, I am the one with all the shacks!
Yes, I am afflicted with kleptomania. I don't care, I am the one with all the shacks!
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Gerin
AB Normal
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From United States
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Donkixotis
New User
Registered: Jun 2013
From Greece
Posted December 19, 2015
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The only time i don't steal is,when there is some form of consequences for it like guards attacking you or bad karma or if you're lawful good.Old rpgs didn't have that though,so i'm used to rummaging :).Why not steal though?Between all the crap you find,there's always a jar in a house that contains a [Warrior's helmet+5] or an item that increases your HP by 200.
The video reminded me of another old video called 'cliche quest' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBd8ydC0_IM
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There are some people who believe it's better to ask for forgiveness while there are others who believe it's better to ask for permission. I'm of the latter sort and it's worked quite well for me.
Besides,i said already,i never steal if there are consequences.For example,in real life,the NPCs don't let you get in their houses and search their closets and barrels.If you do,then they summon some elite minions called 'the police',which are clearly overpowered.They have a ranged attack that penetrates armor and a thunder-based attack which stuns you for like 5 minutes!
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JDelekto
Handler Level 2
Registered: Apr 2013
From United States
Posted December 19, 2015
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There are some people who believe it's better to ask for forgiveness while there are others who believe it's better to ask for permission. I'm of the latter sort and it's worked quite well for me.
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Besides,i said already,i never steal if there are consequences.For example,in real life,the NPCs don't let you get in their houses and search their closets and barrels.If you do,then they summon some elite minions called 'the police',which are clearly overpowered.They have a ranged attack that penetrates armor and a thunder-based attack which stuns you for like 5 minutes!
...and the police minions can't search your home without a warrant, but I imagine in a game, they already have one signed by a judge.
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Bad Hair Day
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Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted December 19, 2015
It's been a long day and I just spent two hours driving in a killer blizzard, so bare with me.
Is the fight these two are having for real or are they just having fun? :P
Is the fight these two are having for real or are they just having fun? :P