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Fuck weeklys then - in fact if they keep this system I may stop purchasing HBs altogether... they may have had a sale from me cause I like OSTs and don't have SuperFrog... but - laying aside the issue of whether you consider it immoral or not to give away keys for games that I have bought before - often at release at full price - and most times having purchased the DLC (and it is only a MORAL issue - ToS are not binding - and are heavily weighted against the consumer - I'm not breaking any laws by failing to abide by them in any case) not any more...

and where are they pulling Steam account info from anyway... I don't ever remember authorising my HM account to be linked to my Steam...
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amok: New system!

I like this, activate directly on your account, not need to mess around with keys. Well done!
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iippo: ...kinda would have wanted to gift the "excess" keys to family and friends.

Does not prompt me to pay more than the minimum price.
You still can do. I know how to do it with family, but not with strangers, as you need to give them access to your humble account, or they need to give you access to their steam account. As I and my better half know each others steam accounts, there is nothing stopping me from activating half the games on her steam account, and the other half on my steam account.

Doctor! I got zee worms!
Worth it for Worms Armageddon and Ultimate Mayhem - yes, I actually enjoyed the 3D outings - alone. Still hoping that Armageddon will make it to GOG at some point, but until then I can play it for cheap. :) That said, I've always been curious about Worms Pinball. That ought to be decent, and Blast, while completely different again, I remember to be quite fun, too, for what it was.

Is the new Alien Breed worth the extra monies? ... I've played the demo of Revolution, and I wasn't really bowled over by it.
Post edited October 31, 2013 by mistermumbles
Actually, if you have a game on your account, you can put it on another. I had Superfrog HD, and it is still available for me to redeem, so if I would I could now put it on my better half's account.

Edit - so the only thing this system stops is random giveaway and a reason to buy dozens of 1 cent bundles. I think it makes lots of sense. The bundles are just no longer trade-able in broken up bits.
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Post edited October 31, 2013 by amok
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iippo: ...kinda would have wanted to gift the "excess" keys to family and friends.

Does not prompt me to pay more than the minimum price.
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amok: You still can do. I know how to do it with family, but not with strangers, as you need to give them access to your humble account, or they need to give you access to their steam account. As I and my better half know each others steam accounts, there is nothing stopping me from activating half the games on her steam account, and the other half on my steam account.
i dont like that kind of fumbling really.
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amok: You still can do. I know how to do it with family, but not with strangers, as you need to give them access to your humble account, or they need to give you access to their steam account. As I and my better half know each others steam accounts, there is nothing stopping me from activating half the games on her steam account, and the other half on my steam account.
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iippo: i dont like that kind of fumbling really.
*shrugh* the only fumbling is to log into another steam account than yours when you redeem the code. There is not more fumbling that copy-pasting keys.
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amok: Edit - so the only thing this system stops is random giveaway and a reason to buy dozens of 1 cent bundles. I think it makes lots of sense. The bundles are just no longer trade-able in broken up bits.
It stops you from giving them to friends and distant relatives. No matter how well I may know somebody, I'm also not going to be sharing my Steam account information or expecting others to share it with me so that I can give them a game. Not to mention, you technically shouldn't be doing that anyway as it could cause account problems and quite a few headaches dealing with support if too many people are seen accessing it, friends or not.

Also, how does it stop people from buying 1 cent bundles? I think that would increase for DRM free bundles. As far as I can tell, this will only increase the amount of people paying the absolute minimum since they are no longer getting the spare keys they would like to share, especially for products they already own. The comments on other forums especially seem to be suggesting this behavior in the future.
Post edited October 31, 2013 by Kurina
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amok: Edit - so the only thing this system stops is random giveaway and a reason to buy dozens of 1 cent bundles. I think it makes lots of sense. The bundles are just no longer trade-able in broken up bits.
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Kurina: It stops you from giving them to friends and distant relatives. No matter how well I may know somebody, I'm also not going to be sharing my Steam account information or expecting others to share it with me so that I can give them a game. Not to mention, you technically shouldn't be doing that anyway as it could cause account problems and quite a few headaches dealing with support if too many people are seen accessing it, friends or not.

Also, how does it stop people from buying 1 cent bundles? I think that would increase for DRM free bundles. As far as I can tell, this will only increase the amount of people paying the absolute minimum since they are no longer getting the spare keys they would like to share, especially for products they already own. The comments on other forums especially seem to be suggesting this behavior in the future.
You may still buy a bundle for 1 cent, but there is no much more point getting 2 bundles for 1 cent....

And yes, I do not feel sorry that HB now felt the need to enforce the rules they kindly asked you to obey before. I do not think this would have been a problem if you only gave a away keys to 'distant relatives', but only in the fashion that we are all related to a 7 degrees of separation... At least this puts a stopper to the argument "if humble did not want us to do this, they would not let us".

I just increased my payment by $10 over what I normally pay encourage HB to continue with this system. It also made redeeming keys a doodle :)

edit- or to put it in a different light - if people (I am not saying you did) did not abuse the system as they did, you would now still be able to give keys to family. However, we both know that most of the keys given away or traded did not exactly go to family...
Post edited October 31, 2013 by amok
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iippo: i dont like that kind of fumbling really.
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amok: *shrugh* the only fumbling is to log into another steam account than yours when you redeem the code. There is not more fumbling that copy-pasting keys.
as consumer i feel this new thing is not worth the extra €€€ ive used to pay for the bundles in the past.

Thus ill be voting with my wallet and just going with the minimum and if i really want to gift something, ill just buy new bundle as gift for the minimum price.

So if in the past i would have paid say 10usd for some bundle and gift something for 2 friends - now ill just buy all together 3x1usd bundles.

I know moralizing does not work, so i just let the wallet do the speaking.

Simple. Elegant. Inefficient (lost money for them).
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amok: *shrugh* the only fumbling is to log into another steam account than yours when you redeem the code. There is not more fumbling that copy-pasting keys.
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iippo: as consumer i feel this new thing is not worth the extra €€€ ive used to pay for the bundles in the past.

Thus ill be voting with my wallet and just going with the minimum and if i really want to gift something, ill just buy new bundle as gift for the minimum price.

So if in the past i would have paid say 10usd for some bundle and gift something for 2 friends - now ill just buy all together 3x1usd bundles.

I know moralizing does not work, so i just let the wallet do the speaking.

Simple. Elegant. Inefficient (lost money for them).
*shrug* it is your consciousness, in the end
No more key trading. Some people will be furious :D And amok will sleep well tonight.

And people bitching about it... It's several games you may pay as little as $1 to get steam keys. I do not feel entitled to share games with my friends I paid only 1 dollar for.

I had every single game from this bundle except Worms Armageddon. But I don't feel bad for paying $1 for Armageddon and not being able to share the rest of the keys. Why would I be?
Post edited October 31, 2013 by keeveek
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Bigs: Individual keys for each game or tiered keys?
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serpantino: I paid for all the games (2nd tier) and clicked it and it just redeemed them all. The 2 games I already owned, when clicked, would just say that the steam account already owns that game.
For the games already owned, does the "redeem" link stay in place?

I didn't even try it myself that far, I just unlinked and relinked my second account to redeem the dupes.
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iippo: as consumer i feel this new thing is not worth the extra €€€ ive used to pay for the bundles in the past.

Thus ill be voting with my wallet and just going with the minimum and if i really want to gift something, ill just buy new bundle as gift for the minimum price.

So if in the past i would have paid say 10usd for some bundle and gift something for 2 friends - now ill just buy all together 3x1usd bundles.

I know moralizing does not work, so i just let the wallet do the speaking.

Simple. Elegant. Inefficient (lost money for them).
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amok: *shrug* it is your consciousness, in the end
well, ive offered them so far more money for less keys - id say they have the ball.
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serpantino: I paid for all the games (2nd tier) and clicked it and it just redeemed them all. The 2 games I already owned, when clicked, would just say that the steam account already owns that game.
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kalirion: For the games already owned, does the "redeem" link stay in place?

I didn't even try it myself that far, I just unlinked and relinked my second account to redeem the dupes.
Yes, and it can be redeemed on anther account
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Post edited October 31, 2013 by amok
And I don't care about all this. <shrug> I've always treated bundles like DVDs you get with gaming magazines - couple of games at a nice price, but all of them are on one or two discs. If I like something from a package, I buy it and I wouldn't care less when I get some titles twice.