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richlind33: The social engineers are Zionist Jews -- the same ones that are fomenting the chaos and civil war in the Middle East that has created the refugee crisis.
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morolf: I don't find that really convincing, and the implications of your wish to "eliminate" people somewhat extreme, to put it mildly...but I guess I should stop now before this turns into another flame war.
Here it is straight from the horses mouth.
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morolf: I don't find that really convincing, and the implications of your wish to "eliminate" people somewhat extreme, to put it mildly...but I guess I should stop now before this turns into another flame war.
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richlind33: Here it is straight from the horses mouth.
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richlind33:
lol, I know that video, it always comes up in discussions about those topics.
Anyway, I'm not uncritical about the activities of some Jewish organizations and individuals...but I doubt those are mainly or solely responsible for our current problems. And my question remains: What do you mean by "eliminate"? If you're arguing for mass murder, you should just openly state so (since you're American I don't think you'd face the risk of prosecution) and not hide behind euphemisms. But then of course most people (me included) wouldn't exactly regard that as an acceptable or desirable "solution".
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richlind33: Here it is straight from the horses mouth.
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morolf: lol, I know that video, it always comes up in discussions about those topics.
Anyway, I'm not uncritical about the activities of some Jewish organizations and individuals...but I doubt those are mainly or solely responsible for our current problems. And my question remains: What do you mean by "eliminate"? If you're arguing for mass murder, you should just openly state so (since you're American I don't think you'd face the risk of prosecution) and not hide behind euphemisms. But then of course most people (me included) wouldn't exactly regard that as an acceptable or desirable "solution".
We're talking about a very small subsection of the Jewish population, so skip the hyperbole re mass murder. And, we're talking about acts of war. Do people not have a right to defend their nations?

So what exactly is it that you find funny about that video? It's about as unambiguous as unambiguous gets.
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morolf: lol, I know that video, it always comes up in discussions about those topics.
Anyway, I'm not uncritical about the activities of some Jewish organizations and individuals...but I doubt those are mainly or solely responsible for our current problems. And my question remains: What do you mean by "eliminate"? If you're arguing for mass murder, you should just openly state so (since you're American I don't think you'd face the risk of prosecution) and not hide behind euphemisms. But then of course most people (me included) wouldn't exactly regard that as an acceptable or desirable "solution".
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richlind33: We're talking about a very small subsection of the Jewish population, so skip the hyperbole re mass murder. And, we're talking about acts of war. Do people not have a right to defend their nations?

So what exactly is it that you find funny about that video? It's about as unambiguous as unambiguous gets.
I don't find that video funny at all, judging from it Barbara Spectre seems to be a highly unpleasant person. And I'm not naive about the activities of organisations like AIPAC (e.g. its lobbying before the Iraq war in 2003) either. But still, to claim "Zionist Jews" are behind all that's wrong in the world seems like a massive exaggeration...and using 30 second video clips from Youtube as "evidence" isn't terribly intelligent either...
But my question remains: How exactly do you intend to "eliminate" the people you hold responsible for multiculturalism, Mideast wars etc.? Do you want to physically "eliminate" them or just restrict their political power by democratic means or what exactly do you have in mind?
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richlind33: We're talking about a very small subsection of the Jewish population, so skip the hyperbole re mass murder. And, we're talking about acts of war. Do people not have a right to defend their nations?

So what exactly is it that you find funny about that video? It's about as unambiguous as unambiguous gets.
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morolf: I don't find that video funny at all, judging from it Barbara Spectre seems to be a highly unpleasant person. And I'm not naive about the activities of organisations like AIPAC (e.g. its lobbying before the Iraq war in 2003) either. But still, to claim "Zionist Jews" are behind all that's wrong in the world seems like a massive exaggeration...and using 30 second video clips from Youtube as "evidence" isn't terribly intelligent either...
But my question remains: How exactly do you intend to "eliminate" the people you hold responsible for multiculturalism, Mideast wars etc.? Do you want to physically "eliminate" them or just restrict their political power by democratic means or what exactly do you have in mind?
Since you mention intelligence, do you know what the penalty for military aggression is per international law?

And, I never stated that Zionists are responsible for everything that's wrong in the world, so the only exaggeration is your own.
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morolf: I don't find that video funny at all, judging from it Barbara Spectre seems to be a highly unpleasant person. And I'm not naive about the activities of organisations like AIPAC (e.g. its lobbying before the Iraq war in 2003) either. But still, to claim "Zionist Jews" are behind all that's wrong in the world seems like a massive exaggeration...and using 30 second video clips from Youtube as "evidence" isn't terribly intelligent either...
But my question remains: How exactly do you intend to "eliminate" the people you hold responsible for multiculturalism, Mideast wars etc.? Do you want to physically "eliminate" them or just restrict their political power by democratic means or what exactly do you have in mind?
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richlind33: Since you mention intelligence, do you know what the penalty for military aggression is per international law?

And, I never stated that Zionists are responsible for everything that's wrong in the world, so the only exaggeration is your own.
You stated "the social engineers are Zionist Jews"...that sounds like a pretty all-encompassing explanation to me...that sounds like you exclude the possibility that there are anti-Zionist multiculturalists (like e.g. Jeremy Corbyn in Britain).
And anyway, why won't you answer my question what you mean by "eliminate"? If you don't want to clarify the meaning, maybe you shouldn't use such terminology that could lead to "misunderstandings"?
Post edited January 08, 2017 by morolf
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richlind33: Since you mention intelligence, do you know what the penalty for military aggression is per international law?

And, I never stated that Zionists are responsible for everything that's wrong in the world, so the only exaggeration is your own.
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morolf: You stated "the social engineers are Zionist Jews"...that sounds like a pretty all-encompassing explanation to me...that sounds like you exclude the possibility that there are anti-Zionist multiculturalists (like e.g. Jeremy Corbyn in Britain).
And anyway, why won't you answer my question what you mean by "eliminate"? If you don't want to clarify the meaning, maybe you shouldn't use such terminology that could lead to "misunderstandings"?
I always advocate the least violent solution that's available, but in this case international law affords very little choice.

As for Jeremy Corbyn, could you post something that suggests he is a multiculturalist?
Hint : if the person you're replying to is posting nothing but low effort and vague posts not addressing anything you've posted, he is most likely trolling.
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morolf: You stated "the social engineers are Zionist Jews"...that sounds like a pretty all-encompassing explanation to me...that sounds like you exclude the possibility that there are anti-Zionist multiculturalists (like e.g. Jeremy Corbyn in Britain).
And anyway, why won't you answer my question what you mean by "eliminate"? If you don't want to clarify the meaning, maybe you shouldn't use such terminology that could lead to "misunderstandings"?
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richlind33: I always advocate the least violent solution that's available, but in this case international law affords very little choice.

As for Jeremy Corbyn, could you post something that suggests he is a multiculturalist?
First result on google for Jermy Corbyn+multiculturalism:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/jeremy-corbyn-admits-party-needs-more-ethnic-minority-mps?utm_term=.ncVl6JkpB#.gl7dyelk3

He's against immigration restriction:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/27/jeremy-corbyn-rules-out-pledge-cut-immigration

I guess there's more given his far left background...in any case Britain's Labour Party has been multiculturalist since the early 1960s.

As for international law, well, in theory I'd probably find it rather nice as well if Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, G.W.Bush plus leading necons like Perle etc. would have to defend their conduct in a court of law...but that's not going to happen.
And in any case, international law doesn't give you the authority to "eliminate" anybody :-)
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Shadowstalker16: Hint : if the person you're replying to is posting nothing but low effort and vague posts not addressing anything you've posted, he is most likely trolling.
Relax! richlind isn't a troll.

He's just a Nazi. :P
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Shadowstalker16: Hint : if the person you're replying to is posting nothing but low effort and vague posts not addressing anything you've posted, he is most likely trolling.
Hmm, you're probably right, thanks.
Have to go to bed anyway, good night.
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richlind33: I always advocate the least violent solution that's available, but in this case international law affords very little choice.

As for Jeremy Corbyn, could you post something that suggests he is a multiculturalist?
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morolf: First result on google for Jermy Corbyn+multiculturalism:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/jeremy-corbyn-admits-party-needs-more-ethnic-minority-mps?utm_term=.ncVl6JkpB#.gl7dyelk3

He's against immigration restriction:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/27/jeremy-corbyn-rules-out-pledge-cut-immigration

I guess there's more given his far left background...in any case Britain's Labour Party has been multiculturalist since the early 1960s.

As for international law, well, in theory I'd probably find it rather nice as well if Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, G.W.Bush plus leading necons like Perle etc. would have to defend their conduct in a court of law...but that's not going to happen.
And in any case, international law doesn't give you the authority to "eliminate" anybody :-)
Unregulated immigration and multiculturalism aren't the same thing. Corbyn *might* be a multiculturalist, or he might be an egalitarian socialist.

Who is to say what will happen in the future. Very few predicted that Rios Montt would be convicted for crimes against humanity -- in his own nation, no less. Yes, it was overturned, but it illustrates that impossibility is primarily a self-imposed limitation.
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richlind33: Unregulated immigration and multiculturalism aren't the same thing. Corbyn *might* be a multiculturalist, or he might be an egalitarian socialist.

Who is to say what will happen in the future. Very few predicted that Rios Montt would be convicted for crimes against humanity -- in his own nation, no less. Yes, it was overturned, but it illustrates that impossibility is primarily a self-imposed limitation.
From the first link in my previous reply to you:
"“We live in a multicultural, multi-faith society in Britain,” Corbyn said. “It’s not a problem, it’s a strength. It’s not a difficulty, it’s an energy.” "

Or here (on the first page of google results):
"http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-says-should-celebrate-6331301"
"The veteran left-wing said we should "celebrate" the record net-migration figures announced today .
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“I’m proud to live in a multicultural society"

Anyway, since you seem unwilling to tell me whom exactly you want to "eliminate" and how, this discussion seems to be going nowhere...bye!
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richlind33: Unregulated immigration and multiculturalism aren't the same thing. Corbyn *might* be a multiculturalist, or he might be an egalitarian socialist.

Who is to say what will happen in the future. Very few predicted that Rios Montt would be convicted for crimes against humanity -- in his own nation, no less. Yes, it was overturned, but it illustrates that impossibility is primarily a self-imposed limitation.
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morolf: From the first link in my previous reply to you:
"“We live in a multicultural, multi-faith society in Britain,” Corbyn said. “It’s not a problem, it’s a strength. It’s not a difficulty, it’s an energy.” "

Or here (on the first page of google results):
"http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-says-should-celebrate-6331301"
"The veteran left-wing said we should "celebrate" the record net-migration figures announced today .
[...]
“I’m proud to live in a multicultural society"

Anyway, since you seem unwilling to tell me whom exactly you want to "eliminate" and how, this discussion seems to be going nowhere...bye!
I've stated that I support the application of international law, which does not authorize extra-judicial killings.

The only reason this discussion is "going nowhere" is because you are poorly informed and disinclined to achieve a solution that you disingenuously claim is impossible.

Good day.

Additionally, I was hoping you would post something of substance re Corbyn's thinking -- not "news" reports responding to sound bites. Oh well.
Post edited January 08, 2017 by richlind33