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Ophelium: If you can tell me how to get through life without shopping at Wal-Mart, I really want to know...even though I work at one.
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tinyE: I was joking. :P I run a B&B in the middle of nowhere. Without Wal-Mart I'd go under in ten minutes.
I completely understand. Even on my days off, I'll end up at a Wal-Mart at some point every day.
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TheTWF: Bottom line, whether the game is worth buying or not is irrelevant. Denying the consumer the ability to buy it is ridiculous.

Most reasons fall flat because there are worse games on the rosters in terms of violence or quality. There really isn't any legit reason other then someone in the company or investors demanding it shouldn't be carried purely because of it's rep. And that it flat out wrong. It's judgement based on the opinions of moralistic idiots (largely non-gamers), castrating the creator in the process.
GOG's not exactly short of games to release at the moment. I'm pretty sure that an average twin stick shooter that tries to be as nasty as it can be and fails even at that isn't really going to be top priority right now.

From what I've seen it's a game that's missing the whole 'game' part. More or less comparible to those shitty mobile games were you just have to 'click' stuff every now and again out of some failed pretense of interactivity and user involvement.

It's for that reason that it shouldn't be here. There are some bad games on GOG. But at least they do definitely qualify as games, not brainless shovelware.

That said, nice environmental destruction though. Could really do with that in something better.
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DCT: No one is denying your right to buy, it's on Steam, humble and for as long as it's still going Desura. Your just losing a option big fucking whoop. If you want something that badly you buy it where it's available if not then your really don't want the damn thing as much as you thought.
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TheTWF: 1. It's not on Humble.
2. Desura is on very shaky legs financially. And it's the only non-DRM platform for the game.
3. Steam is a DRM platform, monopoly, and general horrible company that should be supported by absolutely no one.

Does it really sound right to you that a game should only be stocked by two stores, with others not carrying it because of goddamn public opinion? How exactly is GOG going to grow and survive if they mandate a limit, one already bypassed by their existing roster?
At least half of the userbase aware of the game knows that. The problem is that a large amount of users on this thread will downrep you if you speak your thoughts, talk about cyber bullying.
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TheTWF: 1. It's not on Humble.
2. Desura is on very shaky legs financially. And it's the only non-DRM platform for the game.
3. Steam is a DRM platform, monopoly, and general horrible company that should be supported by absolutely no one.

Does it really sound right to you that a game should only be stocked by two stores, with others not carrying it because of goddamn public opinion? How exactly is GOG going to grow and survive if they mandate a limit, one already bypassed by their existing roster?
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LeonardoCornejo: At least half of the userbase aware of the game knows that. The problem is that a large amount of users on this thread will downrep you if you speak your thoughts, talk about cyber bullying.
I didn't downrep him for his opinion, I downrepped him for being a hypocrite. Use you login to stress that quality should come before all else and then revive this stupid thread and announce that GOG is obliged to sell something whether it's shit or not. I don't hold anything against anyone's opinion just so long as they are solid on that opinion and don't morph it to suit the situation.
Post edited June 20, 2015 by tinyE
So Hatred is a lot like Postal: A medicore to crappy game that tries to get by by being daring ,edgy,and over the top violent Not surprised given how much the marketing is stressing the "look at how outrageous we are" factor.

The GTA games did not use that approach because they had something to sell other the "Boy look at how violent wwe are" :Good Gameplay.
Post edited June 21, 2015 by dudalb
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dudalb: So Hatred is a lot like Postal: A medicore to crappy game that tries to get by by being daring ,edgy,and over the top violent Not surprised given how much the marketing is stressing the "look at how outrageous we are" factor.

The GTA games did not use that approach because they had something to sell other the "Boy look at how violent wwe are" :Good Gameplay.
Well GTA does a lot more, for the good I mean, and yes that's an ambiguous term. :P Just from a purely technical standpoint (omitting all the violence issues) just pop in any GTA after #2 and walk your character around. The city is alive, different neighborhoods actually look and feel different, NPCs actually have individual characteristics. There are times in GTA when you gun, some when you run, some when you schmooze, some both. I love the Postal games and would probably enjoy Hatred but even the proponents of that game admit it doesn't have any of that stuff; just you and a bunch of targets.
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SirPrimalform: You don't know the reason it's not stocked, I don't know the reason, none of us know the reason. Can we gently return this thread to the underworld?
We do deserve to at least know the reason why it wasn't carried. Quite franky until they do I think GOG should be slapped with a reputation of being arbitrary, and devs, especially ones handling extreme violence, should be wary of signing up.

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tinyE: I didn't downrep him for his opinion, I downrepped him for being a hypocrite. Use you login to stress that quality should come before all else and then revive this stupid thread and announce that GOG is obliged to sell something whether it's shit or not. I don't hold anything against anyone's opinion just so long as they are solid on that opinion and don't morph it to suit the situation.
1. That's incredibly petty of you. 2. The Quality>Names thing is about advocating games with actual quality over fictional quality given to games made by celebrity devs who are overrated purely because they USED to make great games a decade ago, like Doublefine or Obsidian.
Post edited June 21, 2015 by TheTWF
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tinyE:
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TheTWF: 1. That's incredibly petty of you.
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This topic still going... seriously.

GOG could not distribute Hatred because they don't have the technical means for selective distribution to different countries. A ban in one of their target countries would possibly have meant that they would have to remove the entire game, infringing on the players who already bought it. Far too high a risk.

Right now, Hatred is number #848 in the Steam charts, ever steadily going downwards. In two weeks, the entire world has forgotten about the game. So there's no reason for GOG to still pick it up, period.
Oh, don't worry, it's another "champion of righteousness".
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Ophelium: Oh, don't worry, it's another "champion of righteousness".
Look, the man is a rock icon but I think 'Champion of righteousness' is overdoing it!

Wait, are we no longer talking about Tom Petty?
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Ophelium: Oh, don't worry, it's another "champion of righteousness".
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tinyE: Look, the man is a rock icon but I think 'Champion of righteousness' is overdoing it!

Wait, are we no longer talking about Tom Petty?
Tom Petty is a Champion of Awesome.
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LeonardoCornejo: At least half of the userbase aware of the game knows that. The problem is that a large amount of users on this thread will downrep you if you speak your thoughts, talk about cyber bullying.
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tinyE: I didn't downrep him for his opinion, I downrepped him for being a hypocrite. Use you login to stress that quality should come before all else and then revive this stupid thread and announce that GOG is obliged to sell something whether it's shit or not. I don't hold anything against anyone's opinion just so long as they are solid on that opinion and don't morph it to suit the situation.
You've been bitching about people here downreping you for 3 years and now you are downreping people? Now you are taking part in the same system that you have been bitching about for 3 years now. And you downreped HIM for being a hypocrite?

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tinyE: I was joking. :P I run a B&B in the middle of nowhere. Without Wal-Mart I'd go under in ten minutes.
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Ophelium: I completely understand. Even on my days off, I'll end up at a Wal-Mart at some point every day.
SJWs who shop at Walmart. LOL


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Vainamoinen: This topic still going... seriously.

GOG could not distribute Hatred because they don't have the technical means for selective distribution to different countries. A ban in one of their target countries would possibly have meant that they would have to remove the entire game, infringing on the players who already bought it. Far too high a risk.

Right now, Hatred is number #848 in the Steam charts, ever steadily going downwards. In two weeks, the entire world has forgotten about the game. So there's no reason for GOG to still pick it up, period.
How do you know this is the truth?
Post edited June 21, 2015 by monkeydelarge
I was (and this is the God's truth) going to come in here and apologize because I felt monkey (as impossible as this may seem) made a valid point. For a second there I really felt terrible about how two faced I myself was being and I had fully intended to do what I could to make amends for my bullshit.

AND THEN......

He used the term SJW.

TWF, that was pretty shitty of me and for that I am sorry. I totally don't agree with you but I don't think I could have voiced it in a more inappropriate way had I tried.

Monkey, one day someone is going to shove their SJW so far up your ass you'll be shitting pretentious meaningless labels for a month. :P
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tinyE: I was (and this is the God's truth) going to come in here and apologize because I felt monkey (as impossible as this may seem) made a valid point. For a second there I really felt terrible about how two faced I myself was being and I had fully intended to do what I could to make amends for my bullshit.

AND THEN......

He used the term SJW.

TWF, that was pretty shitty of me and for that I am sorry. I totally don't agree with you but I don't think I could have voiced it in a more inappropriate way had I tried.

Monkey, one day someone is going to shove their SJW so far up your ass you'll be shitting pretentious meaningless labels for a month. :P
If someone tries to shove anything up my ass, he or she will know the true meaning of pain and beg for the sweet embrace of death.

SJW
SJW
SJW
SJW
SJW
SJW
SJW
SJW

KISS MY FUCKING ASS, BITCH.

If scum like you, doesn't like it when I say "SJW", then how about you come up with an alternative that is also 3 letters long or how about you fucking earn my respect to a point where I wont want to offend you? INSTEAD, of feeling entitled to the entire world catering to your feelings? Give me one good reason, why I should go out of my way to not use a word, that makes you butt hurt?
Post edited June 21, 2015 by monkeydelarge