Okay. Maybe people like you and jefequeso are the normal ones. Maybe one does need to be desensitized in order to enjoy a game like Hatred. Maybe because we are desensitized, we can find games like Hatred, very entertaining. So why not let us have our fun as long as it doesn't hurt anyone? Why try to stop this game from coming to GOG?

Again, replace "Hatred" with "child rape game" in your questions and you have answer, I guess. To me there's little to no difference between the two. Games like these simply shouldn't be allowed, because they disregard the weight of the theme and are making fun out of things that are not fun by any stretch.

I disagree with "shouldn't be allowed," but I think they should definitely be open to criticism.

I understand that these days censorship is being considered as a very dangerous thing, but let me rephrase this once again: Are mass murders a more acceptable theme for games than child rape? And if so, then why are they more acceptable? Only because it was already done before in games and movies, but in a bit lighter manner? It's just a next step "forward", so there's no problem?

No one is trying (or capable) of stopping this game from being developed and released. So you will be able to get it, if you want it so bad. But I guess some people who are active in "GOG community" feel partially responsible for what goes on around here, and feel the need to "monitor their own backyard" so to speak. It's not about stopping you from playing it, but about not being in any way party to something that disturbs them. At least that is how I see it, and why I voted for "NO to Hatred on GOG", though I might have acted too hastily, I'll admit. I really don't like anything about this game, and don't want to see it here, but than again GOG is just a store, and people who want to play it are users too...

I already explained this in one of my posts. I said it's because we(human beings) are programmed to be very protective when it comes to children especially. It's not blatant hypocrisy because children are children and adults we don't know are not children. You need to calm down. You are being way too over sensitive. I will not have a debate with your lizard brain. I said in a previous post that you can't separate what is real and what is not real when it comes to games. This was not me, putting you down. I was just trying to figure out what makes you so different from me. And while debating with Yummlick, he made me think that maybe you being disgusted by the game simply means you aren't desensitized like me. He made me think, maybe it's normal to not be able to separate what is real and what is not real when it comes to games. Because maybe it's normal to be flooded with horrible emotions after seeing animated images that remind you of death and suffering. And therefore, it is normal to be disgusted with this game...

This is the "death =/= suffering" debate. Killing people in videogames is one thing, making people suffer is another. Killing peple in a videogame because they prevent you from reaching a goal is something, adding gratuitous violence reaches another level.

There is a fallacy in your 'detached from reality' I think. In my opinion "Having fun spending time making virtual people suffer" is tied very closely to reality (the 'fun' part).

But if the game comes to GOG, I'm sure a lot of people will buy it so GOG will be able to make some $$$ from this game. And that is good for everyone here, no?

I like to think there are many levels in 'acceptance', I wouldn't know where to trace one line.

I think you're misunderstanding my position in all this.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/hatred_game/post87

The argument starts here.

No, Breja is right, the limited amount of releases here makes that important. I don't believe any second that gog could have a shortage of games to release and I am sure many are rejected in favor of others. I think I would prefer any game being released instead of this one.
Edit : To be clear, only for the provocative angle clearly worked by the devs, I am really against that game.

Of course the recent 'multi releases' gog is showering us with is weakening my point :s
Indeed it seems. I didn't catch the thread yesterday because the game wasn't appealing. But the recent activity related to the discussion of violence piqued my interest. I should've grab the thread higher. (Are you doing reverse argumentation to me !!? ;)

Saw the trailer.. the mindless violence kind of irked me...

but I guess it's one way to vent frustration,instead of actually doing all that :P

No, that's exactly why I don't want it here- I find this game disturbing to say the least, and I dont' want to profit from it any way no matter how remote. And I don't want to be party to it's distribution in any way, and as I am GOG's customer one could argue that GOG exists (in a minute way) because of my money, and if it distributes this game I am partly responsible for it.

Now as I said my decision to actually vote against it might have been in part emotional, I don't want to take a "holier than thou" stance here, and I don't want to be party to censorship either. Having cooled down somewhat and thought it through I would not vote against it now, for reasons already stated previously, but I still would hope that "Hatred" does not make it to GOG.

Stop linking to that defamation everywhere. Żołnierze Wyklęci were both anti-nazi and anti-communist and have national holiday dedicated to them in Poland.

And these people have nothing to do with them. If there is any defamation here, its by people who use memory of those heroes for their political agenda.