Posted March 20, 2016
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JMich
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Posted March 20, 2016
Sure, but I'm talking about the principal, man! GOG was still advertising that they had one-world one-price policy while proudly displaying Witcher 2 in the main page, which must have been pretty embarrassing for Geralt.
LEMON CURRY?
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From Denmark
Posted March 20, 2016
Why are you asking me? :)
Well, I guess I should have emphasized the phrase in parenthesis as that was the important part of my response to your question. Surely, 'equal worldwide availability' implies 'we will never allow region locks' (in spite of the whole The Witcher 2 ordeal).
Lemon_Curry: No but they abandoned their 'one world, fair price' (and consequent 'equal worldwide availability') principle:
https://static.gog.com/upload/forum/2014/02/46d797b3d94de830afbfdec295209c422eadf7e4.jpg
Cyraxpt: That i already knew, not sure if the regional pricing was one of their principles, that's why i asked. https://static.gog.com/upload/forum/2014/02/46d797b3d94de830afbfdec295209c422eadf7e4.jpg
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Posted March 20, 2016
tinyE: And again, if they refuse the region lock, the distributor shits and pulls the game entirely so no one can get it.
This attitude is, I am sorry to say, one of the reasons GOG went to hell in the first place. The argument that if you don't do it, someone else will instead is the classic way to dilute principals, and it is what GOG has used continuously since they started down the path of darkness. Let's take such an argument ad absurdum:
"I trade slaves, because there will always be a market for slaves, and someone will trade them. At least when I do it I know they'll be kept in decent conditions while they're in my care".
The whole point of principles is that they cost you. If society already aligned with all your principles, you aren't actually trying to affect anything, you're happy exactly the way things are. GOG used to have principles, they used to want to change the games retail industry as opposed to just be a big player in it. If a publisher pisses off because GOG won't play ball, that used to be a good thing, it meant they were deprived a marketplace where gamers would solely purchase content because it aligned with their principles.
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From Sweden
Posted March 21, 2016
But it's not publishers that decide that they don't want German or Australian customers, it's the laws of said countries. Do you think that gog will be able to push for more liberal legislation in such countries? We can either allow region locking, exclude countries such as Germany from using gog altogether, or exclude all games that run afoul of any nations laws and in so doing making gog stricter than any single nation.
HunchBluntley
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Posted March 21, 2016
Post edited March 21, 2016 by HunchBluntley
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Posted March 21, 2016
"...and, hey, I only buy and sell human beings -- it's not as if I'm restricting the sale of some video games based on where the buyer lives. THAT would be truly monstrous."
Post edited March 21, 2016 by HunchBluntley
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Posted March 21, 2016
tinyE: And again, if they refuse the region lock, the distributor shits and pulls the game entirely so no one can get it.
wpegg: This attitude is, I am sorry to say, one of the reasons GOG went to hell in the first place. The argument that if you don't do it, someone else will instead is the classic way to dilute principals, and it is what GOG has used continuously since they started down the path of darkness. Let's take such an argument ad absurdum:
"I trade slaves, because there will always be a market for slaves, and someone will trade them. At least when I do it I know they'll be kept in decent conditions while they're in my care".
The whole point of principles is that they cost you. If society already aligned with all your principles, you aren't actually trying to affect anything, you're happy exactly the way things are. GOG used to have principles, they used to want to change the games retail industry as opposed to just be a big player in it. If a publisher pisses off because GOG won't play ball, that used to be a good thing, it meant they were deprived a marketplace where gamers would solely purchase content because it aligned with their principles.
tikeno
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From Australia
Posted March 21, 2016
MightyPinecone: But it's not publishers that decide that they don't want German or Australian customers, it's the laws of said countries.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the deveopers of Hotline Miami 2 just not even try to get it classified for Australia, due to assumtions of refusal?* In effect, it was their decision to not make it available here. That's the only GOG game not available in Australia. *I could be thinking of some other, non-GOG game, though.
HunchBluntley
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From United States
Posted March 21, 2016
MightyPinecone: But it's not publishers that decide that they don't want German or Australian customers, it's the laws of said countries. Do you think that gog will be able to push for more liberal legislation in such countries? We can either allow region locking, exclude countries such as Germany from using gog altogether, or exclude all games that run afoul of any nations laws and in so doing making gog stricter than any single nation.
Actually, from what I've heard from those in affected countries, publishers have frequently erred on the side of caution when it comes to region-locking of games (not so much here, but certainly on Steam), sometimes blocking people from multiple games in a series when only one or two of those games is in any way restricted (and none of those banned outright) by law in a given country.Post edited March 21, 2016 by HunchBluntley
a4plz
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From Australia
Posted March 21, 2016
tikeno: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the deveopers of Hotline Miami 2 just not even try to get it classified for Australia, due to assumtions of refusal?* In effect, it was their decision to not make it available here. That's the only GOG game not available in Australia.
*I could be thinking of some other, non-GOG game, though.
Nope, it was officially refused a rating. *I could be thinking of some other, non-GOG game, though.
As for the main topic: I'd much rather GOG bring more games into their DRM-free ecosystem than try to pressure both publishers and international governments into changing their geoblocking policies.
Post edited March 21, 2016 by a4plz
Nickel Jackal
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From Canada
Posted March 24, 2016
There are no legal issues for release Dying Light in Japan,I think.(There are legal problems some games on Germany and Australia,maybe)
Japan has a rating for console like the other countries.But that is a self‐imposed control by publishers and not for PC.
And This is not only "I want to buy Dying Light!".GOG allows no legal issues exist but by publishers convenience that my afraid.
Also this is a chop logic but the price of Dying Light on Japan is infinity.That's not fair prise.lol
If this is a regeon lock with a deadline for adding Japanese not so long,I can patient.
But this is a kindness to show a deadline like Steam,not able to see store page.
In case Dying Light,I could see store page 1st day that released.But after that,I can't see that page.
Also if GOG do regeon lock,they are better to show "why this game is regeon locked these countries" on the store page.
Japan has a rating for console like the other countries.But that is a self‐imposed control by publishers and not for PC.
And This is not only "I want to buy Dying Light!".GOG allows no legal issues exist but by publishers convenience that my afraid.
Also this is a chop logic but the price of Dying Light on Japan is infinity.That's not fair prise.lol
If this is a regeon lock with a deadline for adding Japanese not so long,I can patient.
But this is a kindness to show a deadline like Steam,not able to see store page.
In case Dying Light,I could see store page 1st day that released.But after that,I can't see that page.
Also if GOG do regeon lock,they are better to show "why this game is regeon locked these countries" on the store page.
Post edited March 24, 2016 by addp
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Posted March 25, 2016
Just one question... Is it possible to ask for someone to get it for you and send you the code? By sending to them a game or games of equal value?
GoG has a wonderful community, if that is possible, you can work it out with someone who is a good boy!
GoG has a wonderful community, if that is possible, you can work it out with someone who is a good boy!
Post edited March 25, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
zeroxxx
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