How does "cuckolded porn" connects with politics? What you say about
doesn't make sense. Where did you see that kind of explaination?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckservative
People who use it in a different sense are uninformed.
Just read the Wikipedia article I linked to.

Have read it. The very first paragraph in explaination section reads: See? It has nothing to do with porn. Conservatives are called cucks because they become partially left-wingers. And, as I have said in earlier comment, cuck is a term for male leftists.

And the reason, why people, who are bought into left values called cucks is articles like this:

Oh god, that article is terrible.

The more common term I've heard used to describe them are 'soy' or 'soyboys', but it's essentially the same. It's like a form of stockholm syndrome, where the man has been beaten down so far by society he actually thinks that he likes not being a man. I don't see that it necessarily means you have to be left leaning to be one, it basically just means a man who doesn't embrace his masculine qualities and usually lets people walk all over him.

You have to worry about peeps that think wikipedia is an authoritative source -- and don't even bother to read it through. o.O

Anita in the UN, asking youtube to be censored:
https://youtu.be/V3m-bcaCVbM</span>https://youtu.be/V3m-bcaCVbM

Now retracted report that came with that same UN representation, where apparently video games created "Nintendo Killers", caused violence and should be banned: http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf

Anita suggesting Rockstar Games are harassing her because GTA exists:

http://thegg.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Anita-Sarkeesian-on-gta5.jpg

Anita doing her best Jack Thompson impression during the representation of Doom:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a17f417e01affaed9df1c2ea754d1e29/tumblr_npysuuAubk1r5x7c3o1_1280.png Polygon "journalist" trying to silence a disagreeing indie dev with threats:
http://i.imgur.com/1qma7t5.jpg</span>http://i.imgur.com/1qma7t5.jpg
Polygon contributor telling a game dev how art is "harmful" and should be banned:
https://archive.is/yrMIu</span>https://archive.is/yrMIu
Polygon contributor calling for censorship of Penny Arcade:
https://archive.is/4k8FE</span>https://archive.is/4k8FE
For funsies, Polygon playing DOOM:
https://youtu.be/d3pQ0oO_cDE</span>https://youtu.be/d3pQ0oO_cDE

Kotaku "journalist" arguing for censorship of Dragon's Crown (missing where he calls the artist a pedophile):
http://www.crymore.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/imnotacensor.png</span>http://www.crymore.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/imnotacensor.png
Kotaku trying to get game mods banned because mean racist people might play them:
https://archive.fo/FkRiE</span>https://archive.fo/FkRiE
Kotaku openly celebrating when shops ban GTA V for "sexism and violence":
http://archive.is/MZz5C</span>http://archive.is/MZz5C

Maybe the problem is not the lack of evidence but with your own willful ignorance?

Thanks, I was going to try address this one but you did a much better job than I would have :)
Just look up DeFranco's video on gamergate because it's a real quick over view and is a lot less work than wading through all the accusations and what not just to come to the same conclusion like what I've been doing lol

Edit: found the video and the gamergate part starts at 5:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtkMFHMY0H0&amp;index=8&amp;t=7s&amp;list=LLkP-IRuR_ALhBWDyaxfNBNQ/url]

Edit 2: The FBI got involved after a lot of the threats and they found most of them were just 3rd party trolls and false flags in attempts to perpetuate the victim claim
https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Brianna_Wu%27s_Harassment#cite_note-13/url]

And this is the sort of thing we're still dealing with:

https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/25/17593516/video-game-culture-toxic-men-explained

It's a very, very long hit piece full of propaganda, but here is one small quote:

"The people who are upset about the new Star Trek: Discovery are the same kinds of people who were upset with Captain Sisko and Captain Janeway. For many years, people have been trying to limit the visibility of women and people of color in our media."

That's wrong, I believe Star trek discovery is a travesty, but I would argue captain sisko is one of the best characters in star trek. Captain janeway wasn't great, but that's not because she was a woman. Not liking star trek discovery doesn't mean that you're automatically racist and sexist. Or at least, it shouldn't.

This is the problem, any legitimate criticism of something is dismissed outright as being racist or sexist in some way, instead of dealing with any actual points made.

Oh I started watching that but it really didn't seem to know where it was going and I had other shows like Killjoys and Expanse that I didn't have to wait week to week to watch an episode. Pity it didn't find it's footing later on.

Honestly it was a big mess, I only made it 4-5 episodes before I left in disgust midway through an episode. Not only does it not feel like a star trek show, not follow any sort of continuity, and have terrible acting. They don't even try to make the world feel plausible, they try to use sonar in space(protip to their writers: sonar requires air to propagate sound waves, and would be too slow to be effective in space anyway), one fight the captain does some silly plan where he drops torpedoes at the enemy ship instead of shooting them and then teleports away from the fight entirely, just hoping his plan worked. Because if it didn't, they just left a planet full of civilians alone to get butchered for literally no reason. They talk about fungus in space connecting everything together, there's so much wrong with it I can't even.

On the upside, it does have some of the best looking visuals I've ever seen in a science fiction show(except for the ship designs). That's the only good thing I can say about it, though.

Sorry for going off topic, but as you can see my dislike of the show has nothing to do with racism or sexism. But apparently not liking it is enough for them to consider me racist and sexist. The Expanse is an amazing show, though.

I mock people who took what was historically considered the hobby of excluded and sidelined individuals, and used it as a platform to abuse, sideline and exclude individuals. Absolutely.
Are you going to say "But you're not showing tolerance to intolerant people!"? :D

See, that's the problem with constant exaggeration for effect- People initially say "They want to ban our games!" over and over as an exaggeration, and then eventually the audience actually starts believing them. "Rape culture"? Really? Says who?
Anita DOES provide an argument that the constant barrage of "Save the princess" storylines and the like contribute to a culture that objectifies women (literally making them the object of winning a game). You might disagree with that assessment, but it in no way is calling for the game to be banned or censored, or even saying it is an irredeemably bad game.

I take it you're translating her comment about online communities in general (I couldn't find her reference Youtube anywhere in her speech) where she says "It's not enough that they put band-aids on the problem areas, that they need to completely re-imagine what their systems look like, in order to build sites that actively deter online harassment, that make it harder to do this." as "She's asking to censor Youtube!"? Because I read it the exact opposite- censoring and banning people would be the band-aid. But I guess nuance is no fun, right? It doesn't make cool headlines.

Following this, you share with me a blank document, a bunch of images that could be taken from anywhere (that don't even support your point), a list of archive.is links that appear to be blocked for me, and finally a video someone uploaded to make fun of people for playing a game?

How about this, instead of trying to drown me in a low quality info-dump, pick the one most obvious, best case (someone unequivocally linked with...I dunno, SJWs or whatever, who explcitly calls to ban or censor games) right from the original source, that proves your point? If someone wants to ban or censor games, that's what they want, they're not going to hide that, right?

Because what you got right now is "evidence" the same way that 4chan's mountains of nonsense was "evidence" of a Pizzagate conspiracy. I mean, it might be a cool psychological trick ("Hey, if there's 5000 points here, but most of the ones I've individually looked up are weak, but there must be SOME truth to it, after all, where there is smoke, there is fire!"), but it doesn't hold up to reality.

And how you know that those people did that? You just took a word of Anita and Wu for it?

Yes, I am. If you mock and humiliate people just because you consider them bad people, don't complain that other people do the same.

No, she DOESN'T provide any argument. She just says that passive and sexy female NPCs lead to derogatory attitude towards women without any arguments or evidence.
Are you going to say "But accusations of a game supporting derogatory attitude towards women don't lead to censorship and/or ban of that game"?

Because I saw it? I'm not blind. Do you think my only exposure to the outside world is what "Anita and Wu" tell me?

Is that all she says?
Are we going for simple, punchy(able) arguments again over nuance?
And, yes, since that's originally what my point was about, yeah, what has that got to do with banning or censoring games?

As a way to move the conversation forward: Do you believe that critical analysis and discussion of the cultural aspects of a video game, and how it is situated in the culture it is created for, contribute to an atmosphere of banning and censoring games?

You saw what? That people were saying "I hate women/n**gers/fa**ots, only white straight men should be game protagonists"? What percentage of GamerGate did they constitute?

No, she also says that pink dresses lead to derogatory attitude towards women.

So, you DO say that accusations of a game supporting derogatory attitude towards women don't lead to censorship of that game?

If "discussion" has only one side talking, "critical analysis" can't be a subject of scrutiny and everyone who disagrees with its conclusions is labelled racist, sexist, etc. Then yes - I believe this will contribute to an atmosphere of banning and censoring games greatly.

She doesn't understand the nuance of it, it has nothing to do with objectifying women. The princess is used because men in general have a protective instinct towards women, they want to help her. Women absolutely are a 'prize', and men have to work in order to earn her attention, that mirrors real life for the most part. If you're a lazy phyically attractive man sitting on your couch doing nothing with your life, you're not going to have any women interested in you, you have to go out and actually put the work in. If you're a lazy physically attractive women sitting on your couch doing nothing with your life, you can absolutely have men falling all over themselves for you.

Is it a bad thing to portray women as valuable things you have to work hard to earn the respect of? Mario isn't 'taking possession' of her at the end like she's a slave. These days they're trying to train men not to even try and rescue the princess, which leaves the princess captured and does neither of them any good. Sometimes in life you need help, both men and women, the only reason men aren't put up as the 'damsel in distress' in games is because the incentive to rescue them isn't the same. I suppose you could have a child being kidnapped instead of a woman, and maybe that would resonate more with women while still making men want to save it; that could work.

Now I would agree that this tendency can absolutely be distorted into something unhealthy, like having some men, ie. 'nice guys' try giving things to women who aren't interested and expect them to return their affections, and it can get ugly. But that's a different problem, it involves helping teach men emotional intelligence, and that's something that's increasingly rare these days. It also has nothing to do with games, it's a problem that happened even before we had video games, the games are a reflection of reality, they're not the cause of men acting badly in that way.

But she is advocating for getting rid of the 'save the princess' type games which are marketed towards men. Just because she doesn't enjoy them, doesn't mean that men don't. And despite her assertions, they don't harm women; in fact they teach men that they need to work in order to be worthy of earning women's affections. I'd be fine if she was saying we should make more different types of games, I'm not happy with her trying to get rid of current ones that portray positive aspects of masculinity or give men fantasies that they enjoy(ie. the male power fantasy), especially as men and masculinity are under attack in a general sense recently in society, it gives men a place where it's okay to be a man. That's increasingly important for younger men growing up who are being told they're bad because of who they are.