JoeSapphire: I was wondering if a mafia rolestopper could have made the same mistake, probably not.
I considered that. "Maybe" that's some sort of planned claim and Babark slipped and read his actual role. If a media roleblocker gets tracked and caught they then claim something like rolestopper to explain what they were doing. But then why is the roleblocker on the person night killed? And if not there to kill Frost, how did he die? I can't imagine both mafia went after the same target.
Thus, this remote possibility is really a non-possibility. Babark is Town and what he claims.
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The big thing today is the surprising NK. Not who anyone expected, and my first reaction was it was somehow a Town action. But with Babark claiming not to have used his power, where is the mafia kill? I know, I can think of a way, but...
That makes it being intentional more likely. As I said previously, I've seen scum get the wrong idea someone has a PR from something they said. The other angle, and the one I now think is true, is that they think a particular kill guides the next lynch away from them.
Enter post #750...
Especially the first part...
"hi folks! i'm back, just reading through the thread. i see dessimu was NK- i'm gonna do some looking back on their last few posts and recap for myself to see who they were looking into and get back to y'all a bit later."
Who posts that they are going to specifically only go back to Dessimu's last few posts to see who he suspects? Do you really believe Razza doesn't know exactly what is contained in those few posts and who they point the finger at?
To me, this all points to why Dessimu was killed. They thought that by killing Dess they could shift today's narrative to one of his last suspects and be safe.
Dessimu's late posts of interest containing people he suspected:
Post #694: "If Babark flips town, I am calling for your head, RWarehall. You have been warned."
Post #705: "Rolestopper almost makes sense. Either mafia has Strongman, or this Rolestopper by Lift's design doesn't protect from kills, or Babark is Mafia"
Post #720: "These quotes I had in mind. I missremembered their timing. Do they make sense with Town!Babark rolestopper?"
Post #729: "I would vote Joe now"
The useful part is if Razza flips scum, it probably clears Joe. I find that a little surprising given the scummy vibes I've been getting. And yes, Joe feels off to me too, just that especially Day 2, we needed to reduce that smaller pool. In fact, that no-lynch was quite good from my viewpoint. We cleared Babark (IMHO) making the pool drop by 1 AND didn't have to kill a Townie to do it. That's a win-win-loss, the loss being the unfortunate PR reveal. Still a decent day.
And no, I still don't see how post #752 makes Razza Town. Notice how Razza's defense all involves a pairing with me and how that wouldn't make sense in killing Dess. And if Razza's remaining partner is someone else?
I'm convinced.
Vote Detective Razza P.S. Maybe we can get to the point a little quicker this game day?