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my name is vaughlte catte: Me being scum is only even possible in a 4 mafia scenario, the goon's existence is a given at this point in both 3 and 4 mafia scenarios. What I'm saying is I'm in favour of lynching the scum that definitely exists instead of the person that isn't the scum that might not even exist.
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ZFR: Even if it is a 4 Mafia scenario, after the Goon's death there is a way for you to better confirm yourself. I thought of an example plan:

Assuming Hunter flips Goon and the game doesn't end, then this Night:
_ You Watch bucktooth.

This would be a good way to prove you didn't kill. One of those happens:
_ Your action fails. bucktooth gets notified. We get confirmation you didn't NK.
_ Your action succeeds. You will then have to say who visited bucktooth. With myself, flub, GH and Eng as possible visitors, there is a small chance you can simply tell correctly by guessing.

Why bucktooth? Because with him being a Coward, we know he can't be NKed. So if you're scum you can't use the excuse "oops I just happened to Watch the person who got NKed. Too bad he can't corroborate my claim."

How does that sound?

Either way no reason to go for anyone but the Goon now.

EBWOP: Yes, I agree it might have been unbalanced.
Yup, sounds like a decent plan.
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Engerek01: I now also suspect that Hunter is the Mutant (scum) Goon. So they never had a day chat, to begin with.

We can actually end the game this turn. Here is an idea.

We can all vote for Catte and lynch him.
Korotan goes and kills Hunter as his night action who is currently the best candidate for the goon. (or Flub, one of them is a medic)

This way, we can make sure the 2 highly possible scum candidates are both dead at the same time. If one of them is a town, they still win even in death.

What say you?
I can get on board with this. I would rather see a No Lynch for today, but I'm not pushing for it.


For the record, I loathe claiming.


However, in the interest of clearing things up...I'm the medic and I did cure ZFR.

This clears ZFR for me since the plan of infecting scum seems over the top.
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my name is vaughlte catte: ..

Why would you expect me to support my own lynch when there's no gain from my perspective? Best case scenario there's one scum and korotan kills them, my lynch would have served no purpose other than to slightly delay the win. Worst case scenario there's one more scum and we're down an extra townie for no good reason.
Because I would have. And it doesn't delay, but makes sure that it is not delayed. If there are 4 scums, I don't see it being anyone other than you. Everyone else is pretty much confirmed and we know there is a medic so either Flub or the Hunter is medic and the other one is scum.

But I'll do as the others say since you are also confirmed that you are not the 3rd scum since you didn't do the killing last night.

Flub, if you had been waiting for this far if anyone else would try to claim as medic and you would step and say "aha, I am the real medic you imposter", I think that ship has sailed.
I'm also (apparently) a ninja.
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flubbucket: I'm also (apparently) a ninja.
Hehe. And a good one. ;)

Vote Hunter
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flubbucket: I can get on board with this. I would rather see a No Lynch for today, but I'm not pushing for it.
To what end? Process of elimination tells us that Hunter is the mafia goon.

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flubbucket: For the record, I loathe claiming.


However, in the interest of clearing things up...I'm the medic and I did cure ZFR.

This clears ZFR for me since the plan of infecting scum seems over the top.
I had an inkling when you said:

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flubbucket: "if you want to help town"

As opposed to the scum medic??
I'm not sure what was achieved by staying quiet until now though...

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Engerek01: Because I would have. And it doesn't delay, but makes sure that it is not delayed. If there are 4 scums, I don't see it being anyone other than you. Everyone else is pretty much confirmed and we know there is a medic so either Flub or the Hunter is medic and the other one is scum.

But I'll do as the others say since you are also confirmed that you are not the 3rd scum since you didn't do the killing last night.

Flub, if you had been waiting for this far if anyone else would try to claim as medic and you would step and say "aha, I am the real medic you imposter", I think that ship has sailed.
Winning at the end of D4 is sooner than winning at the end of N4.

You and GH are only as confirmed as me. That is to say our roles are confirmed, but none of the roles are town-only. If there's a fourth scum it could be any of us because the goon could have been the one out killing.
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my name is vaughlte catte: ................


You and GH are only as confirmed as me. That is to say our roles are confirmed, but none of the roles are town-only. If there's a fourth scum it could be any of us because the goon could have been the one out killing.
Correct.

A scum infector and scum disinfector makes perfect logical sense.



Vote: Hunter65536
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my name is vaughlte catte: ................

You and GH are only as confirmed as me. That is to say our roles are confirmed, but none of the roles are town-only. If there's a fourth scum it could be any of us because the goon could have been the one out killing.
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flubbucket: Correct.

A scum infector and scum disinfector makes perfect logical sense.

Vote: Hunter65536
You realise I was talking to Engerek there, right?
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ZFR: Why bucktooth? Because with him being a Coward, we know he can't be NKed. So if you're scum you can't use the excuse "oops I just happened to Watch the person who got NKed. Too bad he can't corroborate my claim."
I just want to point out that in a 1 scum remaining scenario I'm not sure if my Coward action would work. It seems silly that my action would cause the final scum to suicide.

But regardless, it sounds like korotan could have just cracked the case for us.

Vote hunter

And if this turns out to be true I will be forever annoyed that I didn't push harder for a day 1 lynch when he tried to deflect your(zfr) love fest with Trent on to me and Joe.
I'm tempted to wait and see what Hunter says for himself, but honestly is there a point? If he flips town medic we'd obviously know to lynch Flub tomorrow.

Vote hunter
May I do the honors and have the hammer? If so, someone plz bump so I may do so.

(Unless y'all want to wait for Hunter to say one last word for some odd reason)
Unvote hunter !!!

I just realised something...

korotan isn't on the wagon and it would be rather cruel to deny him that.
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my name is vaughlte catte: I just realised something...

korotan isn't on the wagon and it would be rather cruel to deny him that.
I guess. Still, I gets the hammer vote this time, right?

Plz plz plz plz plz plz
(I so want to do the honors after being denied last game)
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my name is vaughlte catte: I just realised something...

korotan isn't on the wagon and it would be rather cruel to deny him that.
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GymHenson: I guess. Still, I gets the hammer vote this time, right?

Plz plz plz plz plz plz
(I so want to do the honors after being denied last game)
Well I won't take it from you, that's all I can say.
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my name is vaughlte catte: Well I won't take it from you, that's all I can say.
Hey OP, plz do make sure to keep Vitek away from the thread. :)

Yeah, he's ded and all now, but I "bet" he might try to steal my hammer somehow anyways. o.0

(BTW should we perhaps ping korotan? That way they know we saved them a spot? Else they might not check in for a few days again :D)